Jury Service - attending sentencing after release

I really enjoyed the 2 weeks I spent there. It was very interesting and whilst I was dreading doing it, Im glad I did.
I think this is a fairly common reaction. Obviously some people will find it a terrible chore, especially if they have difficult work or family circumstances, or if they fail to be chosen (statistically unlikely in my two experiences of jury service). But I found the whole process fascinating.

It also helps you understand why so much criminal behaviour goes unpunished. Developing a rock solid case against people is very tough, which is why juries are often left to make quite difficult decisions.

I'd still go back and do it again without hesitation. Perhaps if I was better paid I might be less willing. :-)
 
In your opinion. I'd much rather there was some sort of minimum standard of education needed. I hate the thought of being wrongly convicted and my life being decided by a bunch of sun readers whose only experience of decision making is the xfactor.

Trials by jury are decided purely on evidence, we need to make sure the evidence is viewed by people that can actually understand it. This is even evidenced when the judge will sometimes urge the jury to make a particular decision.

I was going to wait until you had replied, but I won't... The trials are based on the evidence. Both the facts, and how the facts are presented. That witness just told you X did Y. But was he lying? Did he look like he was lying? Did his voice waver? Did they get any of it wrong?

The jury are asked to use their worldly knowledge of people when judging evidence - but only when determining evidence from people. If it is on paper, it is black and white. If it is someone's writing, you cannot determine who wrote it - even if you really are a handwriting expert you are asked to not consider it. But if it is someone telling you/the court something, you are expected to judge if it is the truth or not.

You should also have realised that it is the job and responsibility of the Barristers and the Judge to ensure the jury understand the evidence and the relevant pieces of law. It is, in fact, the primary purpose of Barristers to do exactly this, and is a very important role for the Judge - the only role more important to the Judge is to ensure the defendant(s) has a fair trial, which "ensuring the jury understand the evidence" is a big part of no less.

The very same saying "putting it in lay-man's terms" comes from this very role Barristers play, by the way.

The trial is not just the prosecution dumping folders of evidence in front of you and saying "There you go, read that lot" and then the defence doing the same. The only reason trials last as long as they do is because everything has to be explained in the smallest detail to the jury, to completely remove the chance that some/all of them "just don't get it". The jury are invited to ask questions if they do not understand anything. They are constantly reminded that if any of the other jurors might cause an issue they should inform the judge, and can do so anonymously.
 
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wow - certainly sounds like it was serious....

I guess if you're going to do jury service and have to take time off work its perhaps more worthwhile if you get to put some real scumbags behind bars at the end of it.... (or indeed prevent an innocent person from being sent down by an overly ambitious prosecutor)
 
I thought you werent ment to talk about cases afterwards?

I know for sure you cant talk about what happend in the jury room or you can get sent down for contempt.

I missed out on a very very serious trial but a matter of inches (bloke to my left ended up on it and i ended up on a relitivly trivial one.

Turning up to court with more guns around than a typical game of battlefeild and snipers scoping you from up on the roof made me more than a little nervous espicially as i got called 2 weeks after my 18th birthday.

I know for sure I wasnt really ready for it back then and if i had ended up on that case I wouldnt have been able to do it justice as a 18 year old.
 
For those who have done it, what sort of cases did you get, and how many weeks were you in court for? I'm in for a Crown court... hope I don't get anything too graphic.

P.S. It's ok to say what type of case you had only when it becomes common knowledge / in the media etc. You're not allowed to discuss cases while it's happening.

I was on the jury for a case covering the rape of a women and sexual abuse of a minor.

The process was very interesting, but what I heard during those two weeks will stay with me forever. What I don't like is that at end of the trial, we were discharged by the judge, told we'd all done our service, so thanks and goodbye. What I heard still makes my skin crawl, yet it's down to the individual jurors to just deal with it :(
 
what website can we find these records on?

would I be able to find out the sentencing for a case done roughly 5 years, maybe 4 years ago?
 
They are constantly reminded that if any of the other jurors might cause an issue they should inform the judge, and can do so anonymously.

Did you not consider reporting the bum-clown then?

I think i'd hate Jury Service. I tend to like to see criminals get a good and proper punishment so if I thought someone was 100% guilty of a serious crime and they got off on some technicality it would really bother me. Also if it was a serious crime yet for some odd reason they ended up with a **** suspended sentence i'd be appauled as well. I would love being in a position to do some good but I guess I don't trust the justice system to actually catch, convict, and punish it's criminals properly.
 
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I thought you werent ment to talk about cases afterwards?

I know for sure you cant talk about what happend in the jury room or you can get sent down for contempt.

I missed out on a very very serious trial but a matter of inches (bloke to my left ended up on it and i ended up on a relitivly trivial one.

Turning up to court with more guns around than a typical game of battlefeild and snipers scoping you from up on the roof made me more than a little nervous espicially as i got called 2 weeks after my 18th birthday.

I know for sure I wasnt really ready for it back then and if i had ended up on that case I wouldnt have been able to do it justice as a 18 year old.

Free to discuss once dismissed. The guy did all that stuff I've mentioned outside of deliberations - you can only imagine what he must have been like inside them!

The rest of us felt we didn't need to report him as we handled it ourselves and he did, eventually, behave. Most of the time this just meant ignoring his silly statements and questions, other times it just meant asking him to elaborate and watching him tie a knot in his own rope, so to speak.
 
I've been called in the past but it was a 26 week expected duration for an IRA case which I was unable to do due to work. On that basis I was excused but that counted as my service completed.
I'd quite like a chance to actually get on a case though.
 
No, the amount of money paid on Jury service is standard, they won't match your salary if its more than that and your employer isn't obliged to pay you for the service unless its reflected in your contract.

It's not bad though. £649.55 maximum per week tax free plus travel and lunch costs.

So it's limited to a maximum of about a £47,000 per annum gross salary.
 
It's not bad though. £649.55 maximum per week tax free plus travel and lunch costs.

So it's limited to a maximum of about a £47,000 per annum gross salary.

True (though not great when you are on more than that) and a lot of employers pay anyway; I was just responding to the poster who asked if was actually legal to pay less than the jury person's salary.
 
I had jury duty recently but never got picked thankfully. The case was for a young girl who had murdered another young girl on her doorstep. Was quite weird watching it on the first day.

My mum had one recently where the witness just lied and denied his statement as he was scared of the guy who had already threatend to slash his throat with a knife. One of these rough families that you don't really want to mix with.
 
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