Jury Service

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Ive just finished almost two weeks on Jury service and it was one of the most fascinating things i have ever been involved in. I thought I would share some of the events.
After hearing stories of people spending hours and days waiting around I was very happy to called into a courtroom on the first morning and then intrigued to be sworn in on a murder trial.
We heard the Prosecution witnesses and evidence then later in the week the Defence began their case, again with witnesses and other evidence. This involved the only other actual witness, attending paramedics, various Police officers, CSI's then onto Pathologists, Forensic experts and interpreters. All the attending witnesses were of course cross examined by the relevant barristers.
The next stage was the Prosecution and Defence barristers closed there cases (which was quite theatrical and like watching an actor) and the Judge completed the summing up.
The Jury then retired and I offered to be the Foreman expecting other people to volunteer but no one else did so I was voted in! After deliberating and reviwing the evidence we unanamously cleared him of murder and discussed again but could not get a unanimous verdict on manslaugher. We went back in court and i stood up and was asked the verdict on murder and i told the court not guilty then said no to a decision on manslaughter. The judge then stated he would accept a 10-2 majority so we went back to deliberations.
Yesterday afternoon we acheived the required majority and went back into court and i again stood up and told the court a not guilty verdict at which point the trial ended and the defendant was free to leave court.

I learnt a lot about the whole legal system and about myslelf and in a way other people. As a juror you can only consider your verdict on the evidence given or told to you. We spent hours arguing whther it was accidental or self defence and then if it was lawful self defence. You have to ignore any theories, possibilities or especially in this case prejudices and just use the evidence. In this case the evidence could not prove any excessive force so we had to acquit the defendant. This was hard to take for one juror who firmly believed in "an eye for an eye" and would not accept anything else.
You also have to understand the context of terminology. The fatal wound was caused by a sharp pointed object piercing the skin then travelling 18cm into the body. This is termed a stab wound but the word stab has certain connotations and you can immediately think its a violent and aggressive in nature.
In the end the Prosecution evidence was pretty weak and there was a few glaring mistakes especially in the forensic side of things. Their were knives recovered but only one was forensically tested and that was bigger than the wound was dismissed by both pathologists. The knife used was identified bt never tested!

I can say that if given the oppurtunity again i would love to do it again but the one thing we all agreed on was its nothing like on the TV!

Disclaimer- all the above is public knowledge and no specifics or confidential details have been mentioned.
 
This was hard to take for one juror who firmly believed in "an eye for an eye" and would not accept anything else.

I had a few Juror's just like that, so frustrating when you keep telling them its based on the evidence not what they think!
 
If you were really interested why not have a look into becoming a magistrate, I've been really tempted to since I did my jury service, not made any real effort yet though
 
I had a week of sitting around in a small room, with a poor TV and uncomfortable seats. The case was besotted with problems and then when it was finally meant to kick off, on the 5th day, the defendant plead guilty. Hmph!
 
Never done Jury Duty, but if/when I do get called up I wouldn't try & get out of it. Sounds like you had an interesting time of it.
 
I had a week of sitting around in a small room, with a poor TV and uncomfortable seats. The case was besotted with problems and then when it was finally meant to kick off, on the 5th day, the defendant plead guilty. Hmph!

I heard of other cases like a money laudering/fraud that was expected to take 10 weeks and involved lots of financial evidence which one juror said was mind knumbingly boring. Another person sat 5 days and only got sworn in on a case on friday afternoon.
 
I did jury service 6 months after my 18th birthday 26 years ago. It was a great experience, 2 weeks 3 trails and just 1 day not on a jury, and I'd love to do it as a full time job. Even though i was an 18 year old idiot, as opposed to a 44 year old idiot now, I felt I did it responsibly.

Hopefully, one day, I will be called up to do my civic duty again. And no, I can't understand why people would want to get out of it.
 
Out of interest, the people that have done it (either called to the court or actually sworn in), what did you wear?

Every time I've been to court (2 times as a witness, once for jury duty and a couple of times for educational purposes) I've always worn a suit and tie. However, when on jury duty I believe there were only 3 or 4 out of 30 in a suit. I feel it is just right and proper to wear a suit (or at least be smart) to a court.
 
I wore jeans and a shirt, sometimes a jacket and was 90% of the time smarter dressed than most, plenty just wore t-shirts!
 
Out of interest, the people that have done it (either called to the court or actually sworn in), what did you wear?

Every time I've been to court (2 times as a witness, once for jury duty and a couple of times for educational purposes) I've always worn a suit and tie. However, when on jury duty I believe there were only 3 or 4 out of 30 in a suit. I feel it is just right and proper to wear a suit (or at least be smart) to a court.

I wore mainly polo shirts, jeans and shoes most days although i did stretch to smart trousers for the last 2 days. People wore anything form pretty scruffy jeans and t-shirts to suits although i would say most people wore trousers ans shirts (no ties) and jumpers etc. One wierd guy i saw on another case was wearing combats and Crocs everyday:confused:
 
So OP, the victim was pierced by a sharp object that penetrated 18cm into their body. Was the defendant responsible for this injury?

You debated self-defence, accident and reasonable force.

What were the circs, and how did it influence your verdict?
 
I wore mainly polo shirts, jeans and shoes most days although i did stretch to smart trousers for the last 2 days. People wore anything form pretty scruffy jeans and t-shirts to suits although i would say most people wore trousers ans shirts (no ties) and jumpers etc. One wierd guy i saw on another case was wearing combats and Crocs everyday:confused:

Well it is supposed to be a broad cross section of society so I suppose there's no reason to expect any particular person to have any particular dress sense.
 
I spent two weeks at Belmarsh but was not able to go onto the one case I was asked to as it was an IRA case expected to last over 6 months. Would have been very interesting but I couldn't get the time off sanctioned at work.

Instead I had two very boring weeks which I spent reading books.
 
So OP, the victim was pierced by a sharp object that penetrated 18cm into their body. Was the defendant responsible for this injury?

You debated self-defence, accident and reasonable force.

What were the circs, and how did it influence your verdict?

You can't really ask that. The OP was there to hear all the evidence, we weren't. You can't talk about the specifics of a case outside court.

I did jury service last year. I sat on a fraud trial where a carer was ripping an old lady off, and a handling stolen goods where two lads were riding round in a stolen car (foreman on both :)). All the defendants were found guilty, but I wouldn't go into why on here.
 
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I want to do it! I can't understand folk who try on get off it. ( the service, no the murder)

Well, for a lot of people it's a big pain to organise with work/family life or interferes with other commitments or is a massive financial kick in the knackers.

I consider it a moral responsibility but it could have been a real financial headache when I was contracting since I'd have been losing a thousand pounds a week doing it.
 
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