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just upgraded to an r5 1600 (and why I shouldnt be allowed to touch a pc)

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I decided to do a bit of an upgrade so bought myself a brand spanking new r5 1600 with 16gb of 3200 ram and a gigabyte k7 motherboard.


All were delivered at around 10:30 this morning by a lovely DPD driver. However stupid me forgot to order a noctua AM4 kit with my main order so I placed it yesterday for a royal mail delivery.... Our mail doesn't turn up till 1pm :(

so 1pm I have everything I need and so I start building. Here comes user error number 1. I go to put my noctua cooler on the board and it doesn't fit. Cursing and looking around the internet for a solution I decided to read the manual.... Turns out I put the brackets the wrong way :\.

So with the brackets the right way I put my shiny new tub of thermal grizzly onto the cpu die put the cooler on top, go to screw in the screws to secure it and..... they wont reach. Cue more cursing and looking through the internet. I took a look at the manual and realised I had the giant grey washers on the top instead of on the bottom :(.

Two mistakes didn't put me off though. I was determined to get my 6 core goodness. So I plug everything make the case nice and tidy and.... one of the case fans isnt working :(. I plugged the splitter into every fan port on the motherboard (which is tricky once everything is installed) and I come to the conclusion the fan is dead. It just so happens that its the one at the front top which I need to remove the other two to take out.

I replace it and the new ones dead as well :(. So I rip everything out plugging it all back into different places. Turns out its the splitter that has a dead connection. (would have saved me 30 minutes of plugging everything into different ports if I had used my head and checked the splitter. Didn't think to do that as the other two fans were working)

With all the fans now working and the case put back together I boot it up setup my raid 0 and start to install windows. no drives detected :(. Try them in different Sata ports still the same issue. I try two regular hdds and again the same issue. individually they work but I paid for Raid and I want Raid Dang it....... So of to the internet I go. Turns out all I had to do was download the Raid drivers from gigabyte and load them.

So with windows installed and setup I decided to start testing. I fired up 3d mark and noticed my gpu temps shoot up to 80 pretty much instantly. :( I quickly turned off the PC and started investigating.

I have recently put on a alphacool eisenwolf with a 360 rad and before today temps never went about 45 with the fans on their lowest speeds. I disconnected the quick disconnect fittings just encase I didn't put them on properly when I reinstalled the card.... same thing again. I took off the GPU block redid all the thermal paste and pads...... same thing again. I put msi afterburner remote on my phone to keep an eye as im plugging and unplugging the fans and quick disconnects and idle temps are in their 40s.

By this point i am so frustrated I could scream so in a fit of rage I shock the PC screaming why arnt you working. Suddenly I hear lots of water and for a moment I thought it was leaking but checked my idle temps and they shot down to 27c. Must have been some air trapped in the rad and it needed a good shake. :(


And then I get to my final mistake of the night (I had been at this 8 hours by this point) I put a quick dirty overclock on my CPU of 3.9 at 1.35v and set XMP on the memory. I check CPUZ and its showing 3.9 but the memory is only showing 1600mhz. Somethings not right. SO I decided to upgrade the bios (which too 30 minutes turns out I had accidentally pulled out the internet connection from my router sitting next to my pc) Set up my overclock again and..... still 1600mhz in cpuz on the memory.
I was ready to RMA the memory or the motherboard but then I realised its DDR as in Double date Rate. !600mhz x 2 is 3200mhz :\



So all in all a lot of dumb mistakes on my part.


On the brightside though my cpu temps at 3.9 never go above 55 even with my noctua and case fans the lowest I can get.

I havent tested any game out yet but I do love the RBG on the motherboard and the millions of fan headers.

I do have to say that the gigabyte UEFI bios is a load of rubbish. There mouse lag, its slow to save anything and it feels like half the options are missing.

I have also noticed how over dramatic this system is. On my old 4770k when I tried to push the overclock if it failed it would blue screen then a quick dip in the bios and I could change things in 30 seconds.

With this though no blue screen just a black screen and a shutdown. Then it seems to cower in a corner screaming dont touch me for 10 minutes before you can switch it back on and get back into the bios to sort things out.
 
ok update.

The reason why the temps never went above 55c is because I only had 2 out of the 6 core enabled :\.

now temps are around 65c.

Im having a really bad day
 
Haha for what it's worth your posts made me laugh. We've all been there, done that. In fact I swear the more experienced you get the more stupid mistakes you make. Maybe it's because you stop RTFM because you 'already know'... :D Deep breaths, come back fresh tomorrow and enjoy. I need a Ryzen system.
 
This made me laugh! Although you kept trying and sorted it so props to you.
You are right about ryzen overclocks, it's not very forgiving at all.
It's like going back 10 years, I think intel have spoiled us with the easy overclocking tbh.
As for the uefi, I have not come across one yet that doesn't have mouse lag, in fact k just use the keyboard for everything.
 
Had some fun and games recently - partly as it had always been bugging me whether the old Q9550 would run on a spare n650i board I'd had lying around since forever and as I had a ton of spare parts I decided to put a system together mostly for **** and giggles... had it half built before realising I'd put a "non-removable" backplate on for a now long non-existent watercooling setup making it incompatible with the tower cooler I had to hand - no matter I thought I've got another spare AIO that fits the backplate - only to find a mosfet sitting in the way of the block sitting flush on the CPU - cue thermal grease getting everywhere as I try to see if there is a way to make it fit. Finally manage to pry off the "non-removable" backplate (possibly damaging some traces in the process - think they still make a connection but can't be sure) and fit the tower cooler. Finishing the build turn it on and yay it does at least boot up with that combination so curiosity somewhat satisfied though no idea if its stable because 2 minutes later the power supply dramatically tops itself almost literally in my face - turns out the PSU screws that came with the case are a few mm longer than the screws that came with the PSU (that I didn't use) and had made contact with the PCB creating some kind of short oops (that is kind of bad design).
 
sometimes the more time you spend with a faulty pc the more mistakes you are starting to make.
props for not giving up
 
Built my 1700 recently having not built a PC for years. After hours of swearing , taking apart again repeatedly, finally finished and it would not power on, forgot to plug in motherboard power cable :rolleyes:
 
When I built this PC I had everything in but had forgotten to route, and plug in, the cpu power connector. It wasn't the easiest thing to route through the cut out and connect to the cpu power socket, the AIO radiator and fans got in the way, but with a little swearing, a lot really, and some wiggling I managed to get it through and the rest is history.

Anyone who doesn't have an issue when building a PC makes a lot more than most of us.
 
ElliorR said:
Anyone who doesn't have an issue when building a PC makes a lot more than most of us.
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Using a 540 Air case reduced build issues significantly in terms of trying to wiggle things in, etc. heh - after so many years and so many builds I usually do pretty well but still things catch me out especially if I'm not paying full attention.
 
Been there too OP! Glad you got it sorted.

My Ryzen build was and still has been one of the easier builds, I think I got really lucky! I did slap everything together on the bench and installed windows, using the stock cooler (1700) until my AIO bracket turned up, so that probably helped a lot. They day I transplanted everything into the case and installed the new 240 AIO was sunny, so I did it on the garden dinner table, BBQ going and plenty of cold beers consumed :) The ram even worked and continues to be stable at DDR4 3333 with tight timings from the very first try!

The one thing I do though, as you mentioned, with your BIOS woe's, is construct a makeshift fence around my PC desk so that my 2 golden retrievers cant "help" if I do a new bios flash :)
 
Dvader said:
This did make me smile. At least you managed it in the end. Was it worth the upgrade after all the hassle?
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Wont know the full benefits until I get my other 1080 back from RMA then I can truly use the PC to its full potential.

It has taken a lot of tweaking to get things to run well with just the one 1080. The witcher 3 for example was stuttering like crazy until I installed the Ryzen specific drivers.

Its still a platform that I feel needs work. For example I need to use the gigbyte software in windows to overclock otherwise if I do it in the BIOS it sticks the cpu to run at 1.5ghz no matter what I change.


I'm going to be doing a water cooling loop in the next few weeks (god help me)

Fishbait said:
Does OP work for pcworld? :p
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I sure as heck hope not lol
 
All of those were understandable mistakes. Except the part where you assaulted a poor defenseless PC. NEVER Assault your PC. Shelters for abused computers are overflowing with battered computers and their children seeking to get away from their abusive users. Some have even been killed.

All joking aside though seriously never hit or otherwise G-shock a computer. It's just bad. I know of two computers that went t*ts up due to being kicked by their angry users.
 
As said, ALL been there. I have a really bad habit or breaking capacitors straight off mobos and cards. Dont know why but I always snap those buggers right off. It's a nightmare!

In my workshop/Garage I've actually written THINK on my hammer. The reason being 9 times out of 10 when I reach for it it's because I've become so frustrated at something I'm doing and reach for the hammer. 9 times out of 10 it's not the right tool for the job. And seeing THINK. Means I come back inside and calm down. Then later I can go and fix the problem with a level head.
 
Last month I built a 1500X PC for my brother and I noticed the CPU was on the hot side. Checked the CPU fan and noticed it wasn't spinning. Checked the fan header and noticed I somehow managed to plug it in with the wrong pins, even though there's that small plastic tab acting as a guide. Gratz OP on pulling through and got it all working in the end ;).

The UEFI for the Gigabyte board didn't have lag though, and this was a lower end mATX board. Though I do have to agree on a lot of options missing.
 
Been there, done that op, :p

I remember with my current build that I hadn't flipped the PSU switch before closing the case up (The PSU sits receded in the Node 202 and you can't reach the power switch without taking it apart). I think I re-built the entire thing twice before realising my derp. :o

It is ALWAYS the simplest of things which end up taking the most time to resolve.
 
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