Keys & Gray in Sexism Row
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They do appear to be overly sexist, but as football pundits I love them.
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Instead we've gone a bunch of formless morons (Nev excepted) they are parts but they are the best, would happily have them back tomorrow.
I've only got the one in the RAWK picture thread.
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I'm pretty sure most people care even less than the woman in the video appeared to.
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they remind me of George and Lennie of mine and men
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[ASSE]Hinchy;25766676 said:
Well they really should, the woman not appearing to care doesn't mean she doesn't. Those two are effective her boss, all across the country people put up with awful bosses, doesn't mean they like them, and being picked on is bad.
If they were making racist comments about a black person who worked with them, they could pretty much face prosecution, because it's sexist people see it as banter.
But can you imagine being at a work place where your bosses make crude comments about you and you just have to pretend it doesn't effect you or risk losing your job?
They are a couple nasty a-holes, I've also never rated Keyes and Gray as pundits. Grey has never showed an ounce of the ability Neville has at breaking down the game. He's a cliche ridden old oaf.
Absolutely, for this type of stuff to not have leaked before now it clearly can't be in the hands of that many people and potentially someone has a stockpile of ammunition to roll-out when required.
Personally I think this type of behaviour is totally unacceptable and if anything it just shows how in their 'glory days' Keys & Gray considered themselves as virtually untouchable, able to get away with almost anything off air. The whole "did you smash it?" thing, I could kinda explain away as typical laddish banter not directed at anyone present. But this latest one, and the whole "Charlotte, Charlotte tuck this in love *CHORTLE*" thing released a couple of years back is pretty obnoxious. In most professional organisations I would imagine such derogatory chanting at a fellow employee would be a serious disciplinary offence (maybe it was for them, I guess we'll never know).
As for their prowess as pundits to be honest I haven't missed them that much - Keys was a decent frontman but hearing Andy Gray on BT Sport the other day it wasn't as though I was thinking "gosh what amazing insight we need him back on our screens!".
The only disgraced pundit I genuinely miss is Big Ron who's reading of the game was rarely bettered (all too easy to laugh at his Ronisms, but he was often quite prophetic in terms of where threats were going to come from, what changes should be made etc).
Agree, I never thought they were any good when they were on Sky, and to be quite honest I wouldn't even have known who Keys was (never used to watch pre-game analysis because it was quite frankly, rubbish).
Gary Neville changed that, and even Carragher is pretty interesting. Keys and Gray are average at best.
Gary Neville changed that, and even Carragher is pretty interesting. Keys and Gray are average at best.