Leaked: A X38 DDR2 mobo possibly under £100 (inc VAT)
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Looks very good, like it how we say "Make it black" and Ken goes "OK" 
If Ken's on the forum when this is released then they have my business.
If Ken's on the forum when this is released then they have my business.
Looks very good, like it how we say "Make it black" and Ken goes "OK"
If Ken's on the forum when this is released then they have my business.
Yeah absolutely, a real representative within the industry is fantastic for us people, and our opinions really should reflect the opinions of enthusiasts most places.
I think people just want it to get good exposure and LOOK desirable. If it looks rubbish people may THINK it is rubbish (unfortunate but true). Conversely, the opposite is true of good looking products that people think are great but in reality are awful.
Whether I get one or not for my new system/wife new system, I'm still really excited about the release of this board
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Whether I get one or not for my new system/wife new system, I'm still really excited about the release of this board
Matthew
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when will companies ignore what asus do with heatpipes, they are useless, make it impossibly hard to cool the northbridge easily, replacing the northbridge sink is expensive as you need to get mosfet sinks too.
mostly mosfet sinks have been useless as they use huge thick tape and insulate pretty well.
when will we see active cooled northbridges again, you CAN get 40mm fans that are silent and even with tiny airflow its all about the pressure of that airflow and causes fantastically better cooling. also getting a much bigger sink that is wider, taller, whatever will fit into all the spare space , heatsinks don't have to be square, completely obscure shape thats bigger will still cool better. kinda like the p35 dq6 gigabyte, except theirs is crap
, but its about fitting in a cooler using the space available, the reason the gigabyte sink sucks is its actually closed off to much of the airflow of the case. if you have any downward airflow from side fan, which is very common, it can't actually get into the gigabyte heatsink as the fins are paralel to the board rather than the more normal 90degree angle to the mobo. but a sink similar to that, lower on the mobo but extending off the left with "normal" fins would have cooled great.
has to be said memory is getting fairly hot these days, and providing more than 0.00001mm between memory sticks when you're running 4x1gb sticks would be very helpful for airflow and cooling, an extra 1mm between slots would open up airflow, 2 mm's extra between slots and cooling them would be easy.
southbridge, same deal really, ok they don't normally get that hot but, theres lots of space up/down/left/right of the southbridge normally but the space is ignored. randomly shaped low profile sink that extends out into whatever space there is.
mostly mosfet sinks have been useless as they use huge thick tape and insulate pretty well.
when will we see active cooled northbridges again, you CAN get 40mm fans that are silent and even with tiny airflow its all about the pressure of that airflow and causes fantastically better cooling. also getting a much bigger sink that is wider, taller, whatever will fit into all the spare space , heatsinks don't have to be square, completely obscure shape thats bigger will still cool better. kinda like the p35 dq6 gigabyte, except theirs is crap
, but its about fitting in a cooler using the space available, the reason the gigabyte sink sucks is its actually closed off to much of the airflow of the case. if you have any downward airflow from side fan, which is very common, it can't actually get into the gigabyte heatsink as the fins are paralel to the board rather than the more normal 90degree angle to the mobo. but a sink similar to that, lower on the mobo but extending off the left with "normal" fins would have cooled great. has to be said memory is getting fairly hot these days, and providing more than 0.00001mm between memory sticks when you're running 4x1gb sticks would be very helpful for airflow and cooling, an extra 1mm between slots would open up airflow, 2 mm's extra between slots and cooling them would be easy.
southbridge, same deal really, ok they don't normally get that hot but, theres lots of space up/down/left/right of the southbridge normally but the space is ignored. randomly shaped low profile sink that extends out into whatever space there is.
Agreed. A big lump of copper on each heatsource and decent airflow is all you need.
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as with all things asus they just wanted excuses to charge more than anyone else for the same mobo underneath. lets see, put in a £4 poor quality wireless card, call it a pro + wifi g board and add £30 to the price. hmm, we have cooling on northbride, southy and mosfets, i know lets join them up with a heatpipe, get rid of fans, say its 50x better than normal cooling and again, bump up price of boards way beyond the price it warranted.
then as with all things, every company has to "match" feature set, if someone offered free mice/running wheels to provide free power source for the mobo, then you can be damn sure 9 out of 10 other manufacturers would start to do it too. likewise is they offered 58 sata ports , so would someone else. other than poor cooling its just a pain for simple things, putting as5 or other thermal paste on northbridge now requires a heck of a lot more effort.
If you really want an idea for a good motherboard that overclockers might want, how about a barebones board, 4 sata ports, ditch ide now, 4 mem slots with a little spacing between, ditch pci slots, 2 pci-e thats it, cmos in a useful place with a front 5.25 bay box witch switch and cable to attach to cmos reset, battery for cmos right out the way of anything. onboard sound and lan, 2 usb, i guess 1 firewire. All the other stuff requires so many pins, ide/pci which would save a bunch of space, time money, and get rid of a lot of signal interference and leave lots of room on board for memory/cpu power circuitry.
i mean the 20 usb ports, 6 firewire and 4 e-sata on my gigabytes are all fine, but at some point i don't need all the pci brackets and cables with every board i buy, and i will never know who can use that many usb ports. Every board i've bought has tons of stuff i simply don't use. but you can rarely buy a £60 mobo with the power circuitry/caps/bios effort that the top end £160 board comes with. if someone made a £60-80 bare bones aimed for overclockers board and put effort into keeping bios's updated then it would sell loads.
Again, I agree. Have you seen the J&W IP35-Pro? They launched it. As an overclocking board it died on it's feet with the shipping BIOS. They rewrote the BIOS in 3 weeks and now it's gone from dog to god. Amazing transformation.
Really considering buying it but will get the X38 model instead, J&W are shaping up to be some serious competitors to the big brands.
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My guess is that they are just soring out BIOS and hopfully it will be out soon.
One will absolutely be on the way to me
Ken you wanna tell us if you're making a Nehalem motherboard yet? Would really like the highend Nehalem chipset but it'll probably be really expensive so if you guys made a cheap alternative it would be great.
Ken you wanna tell us if you're making a Nehalem motherboard yet? Would really like the highend Nehalem chipset but it'll probably be really expensive so if you guys made a cheap alternative it would be great.
Sounds good but i would need at least 1 PCI slot for the soundcard, on boardsound no thanks.
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Agreed, and drunkenmaster is talking a lot of sense as well.
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@ Ken - please bring out the X38 motherboard ASAP, its February already!
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