Legal EPO, anyone tried it?

jsmoke · 7 Jul 2018 at 05:59

I'm late at usual, 10 years late. Just catching up on the Lance Armstrong saga and see one of the drugs they took was EPO but I also see there is a legal? version of the drug, EPO boost or something. Has anyone tried it or any other drugs/substances for that matter?

tom_e · 7 Jul 2018 at 07:43

Like most other legal supplements named after or very similar to banned PEDs it'll be at best 1% as effective as actual EPO but more likely just really good at emptying your wallet.

jsmoke · 7 Jul 2018 at 08:11

If I started taking say creatine, EPO boost and a protein shake 5 times a week for 6 months I should see some decent improvements in my cycling?

It is ok to mix supplements like this I assume?

I think I might try it, really not much the lose AFAICS. Start training for some triathlons next year. This good weather has brought the sportsman out in me again.

mrthingyx · 7 Jul 2018 at 08:24

For cyclists, use creatine, beta alanine (with taurine) and citrulline malate.

And hit the gym.

jsmoke · 7 Jul 2018 at 08:29

mrthingyx said:
For cyclists, use creatine, beta alanine (with taurine) and citrulline malate.

And hit the gym.

I did the weights for a bit when around 20, used to work in a sports center. I just found it boring after a while. I'll see, maybe work on shoulders a bit.

jsmoke · 7 Jul 2018 at 08:31

mrthingyx said:
For cyclists, use creatine, beta alanine (with taurine) and citrulline malate.

And hit the gym.

What about whey powder, I have no idea about this stuff but if it's legal....

Begbie · 7 Jul 2018 at 08:56

jsmoke said:
What about whey powder, I have no idea about this stuff but if it's legal....

It's food. Just eat.

Fusion · 7 Jul 2018 at 10:19

Just keep training, don't worry about PEDs. Protein and the usual sports supplements, sure. Not sure there's a need for creatine, it causes muscle cells to hold water, which equals more weight. It would probably be useful for track cycling, where you need that extra force production for short periods.

CREATIVE!11 · 7 Jul 2018 at 17:10

No. Do not touch any of those bogus supplements.

tom_e · 7 Jul 2018 at 19:12

jsmoke said:
What about whey powder, I have no idea about this stuff but if it's legal....

Steroids are legal if you just want the most legal bang for your buck.

mrthingyx · 8 Jul 2018 at 00:38

jsmoke said:
I did the weights for a bit when around 20, used to work in a sports center. I just found it boring after a while. I'll see, maybe work on shoulders a bit.

You miss the point. A very easy way to make gains on long distance anything is to get stronger... and not just shoulders.

Train your legs and your core.

jsmoke · 8 Jul 2018 at 15:47

Fusion said:
Just keep training, don't worry about PEDs. Protein and the usual sports supplements, sure. Not sure there's a need for creatine, it causes muscle cells to hold water, which equals more weight. It would probably be useful for track cycling, where you need that extra force production for short periods.

So what are protein shakes are they the same as whey powder?

I may try a few just to see. Tempting.

tom_e · 8 Jul 2018 at 15:53

Yes protein shakes/whey are the same thing generally, some protein shakes include different bits and bobs or different protein sources but at the end of the day they're just food nothing magic. You won't get any magic boost from them that you wouldn't get from a bit of extra chicken a day.

zophiel · 8 Jul 2018 at 20:48

there are no short cuts, eat balanced meal and cycle lots. stop trying to cut corners thats pointless.

NoNameNoNumber · 22 Jul 2018 at 09:56

I use creatine through the winter when I'm strength training and doing intervals, sprints and high intensity stuff. Then in spring as the gym load drops and the cycling/running mileage increases I stop the creatine and lose a couple of Kgs in weeks. Just water though I reckon. Still retain the power.