Lilly Allen = Chav?

Rincewind · 13 Mar 2007 at 22:37

i think she is a punk-chav if that makes any sense, i quite like her style and love some of her songs... mainly alfie

Arcade Fire · 13 Mar 2007 at 22:50

dmpoole said:
I suppose I'm talking like a father here but I'm amazed about all the bad remarks about her.
I actually go out of my way to listen to her when she comes on the TV and my girls usually shout 'Lily Allens on'.
Every time I've heard her speak she has been well mannered, shes been a role model for young girls and I haven't heard her **** anybody else off.
Whats more she really does seem surprised at her success.

Long version: It's because most people are self-important prats who resent that someone who's not glamourously beautiful (and airbrushed half to death) can be successful. She doesn't fit into their stereotype of success and people resent her for that.

They don't look past the image and actually try listening to her music or to what she says. If they did, all their accusations of shallow lyrics or 'chav' music would melt away like so much butter.

Short version: Most people are idiots.

Styles · 13 Mar 2007 at 23:30

Arcade Fire said:
Long version: It's because most people are self-important prats who resent that someone who's not glamourously beautiful (and airbrushed half to death) can be successful. She doesn't fit into their stereotype of success and people resent her for that.

They don't look past the image and actually try listening to her music or to what she says. If they did, all their accusations of shallow lyrics or 'chav' music would melt away like so much butter.

Short version: Most people are idiots.

Short version: You're an idiot.

Everyone has a different opinion so to some people it may be lyrical genious to others it may be trash. I think it's awful, I see no redeeming features of anything. I actually think she's quite decent looking, I would. But alas, she's still a prat and her music is BAD.

Hedge · 13 Mar 2007 at 23:42

S7yl3s said:
Short version: You're an idiot.

Everyone has a different opinion so to some people it may be lyrical genious to others it may be trash. I think it's awful, I see no redeeming features of anything. I actually think she's quite decent looking, I would. But alas, she's still a prat and her music is BAD.

I dont understand what makes her a prat?

so u dont like her music, fair enough. But what makes her seem like a prat to you?

cos similar to what someone said earlier, every time ive seen her on tv interviews or shows she comes across very nice.

Arcade Fire · 13 Mar 2007 at 23:46

S7yl3s said:
Everyone has a different opinion so to some people it may be lyrical genious to others it may be trash. I think it's awful, I see no redeeming features of anything. I actually think she's quite decent looking, I would. But alas, she's still a prat and her music is BAD.

No - it's rare to find something that subjective. Clever lyrics are clever lyrics.

Why do you think she's a prat? Surely you're not so shallow that it's just because you don't like her music?

kefkef · 13 Mar 2007 at 23:51

She has signed to play at www.summercase.com and if i meet her i wouldn't say no!

Shock · 14 Mar 2007 at 00:56

I don't understand why so many people on this forum constanly label people chavs when it's quite obvious they aren't. Maybe because this place is largely populated by people who don't get out much? :confused:

pyro · 14 Mar 2007 at 00:58

I think she is, but she also looks like a nice chavette, in fact, there are quite a few teen chavettes around here that are most definitely shagable...but I don't want to be a dad yet, or have yet another STD

NokkonWud · 14 Mar 2007 at 01:17

I don't care whether she is a chav or not, all I know is I absolutely detest the stupid ****.

Azagoth · 14 Mar 2007 at 01:25

I always thought chavs were those violent little feral prats who think it's cool to hang around and abuse inoccent people and their property.

That said, I hadn't even heard of this Lily sort until I decided to read this thread. After a quick google she doesn't seem to be a chav at all. Just one of the many crappy vocalists who keep popping up theses days.

james.miller · 14 Mar 2007 at 01:26

Azagoth said:
I always thought chavs were those violent little feral prats who think it's cool to hang around and abuse inoccent people and their property.

That said, I hadn't even heard of this Lily sort until I decided to read this thread. After a quick google she doesn't seem to be a chav at all. Just one of the many crappy vocalists who keep popping up theses days.

you've obviously not heard her sing then. She is a very good singer.

Azagoth · 14 Mar 2007 at 01:31

james.miller said:
you've obviously not heard her sing then. She is a very good singer.

Can't say I have. LIke I said, I din't even know who she was until 5 mins ago.

james.miller · 14 Mar 2007 at 01:33

its a bit presumptuious to call her a crappy vocalist then?

NokkonWud · 14 Mar 2007 at 01:48

james.miller said:
its a bit presumptuious to call her a crappy vocalist then?

She is very average, just flavour of the month.

james.miller · 14 Mar 2007 at 01:53

NokkonWud said:
She is very average, just flavour of the month.

you called her a stupid ****. for some reason, i cant take your opinions seriously. even if i didnt like her, which i do, i would still respect her abilities. you dont seem to be able to see past whatever image you seem to have of her.

Ice Tea · 14 Mar 2007 at 02:05

I'd rather listen to Lily than Natasha Bedingfield.

All of Natasha Bedingfield songs sound the same screaming and shouting.

SexyGreyFox · 14 Mar 2007 at 06:51

S7yl3s said:
she's still a prat

Why?

West · 14 Mar 2007 at 07:39

kitten_caboodle said:
100% pure Hit it Material.

let me correct you

NokkonWud · 14 Mar 2007 at 10:25

james.miller said:
you called her a stupid ****. for some reason, i cant take your opinions seriously. even if i didnt like her, which i do, i would still respect her abilities. you dont seem to be able to see past whatever image you seem to have of her.

I heard her sing before I saw her or knew OF her, I know better singers at my University than her. She has gathered publicity by bad-mouthing other talents in the music industry before she has done anything herself. Her attitude is terrible, she promotes drug usage, binge-drinking, swearing and everything else that makes society worse. A pop-idol she is not.

As I said, she hasn't got a great voice and her attitude sucks. Who is she to be insulting people far more talented than her?

Efour · 14 Mar 2007 at 10:34

Famous old man

"sings" in a popular modern style

In touch with the "bling yute and 15 yo ghetto white girlz"

anti sexy stupid little rich girl gone bad kind of sexy

Utter drivel imo but then i'm 30 white and male. If i liked it id be ridiculed