Linda Nogrove ''may have been killed by friendly fire''

When i heard this on the news yesterday, before this discussion, the presenter/reporter read it out in a weird way which made it sound like she had been killed in crossfire or similar.

What a completely pointless way to die though. Political pawn.
 
cm1179 said:
i think it was probably down to the ''if it moves, shoot at it'' training techniques brought on by getting their behinds handed to them in someone elses back yard
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mostly there were down on the ground shooting at ankle/knee level towards sounds and noises and especially enemy gun shots...

according to this book im reading anyway: 'We once were soldiers, and young'
 
They should have used poison.. I mean 'sleeping' gas.

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Tefal said:
Not to sound like an arm chair general but flash bangs aren't really the movie style everyone falls down and has a little nap iirc they're only meant to be effective for something like 10 seconds so they have to be very close for them to capitalise on the situation.
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You don't sound like an armchair General, you are quite correct. A Flashbang has a very limited effective window of only a few seconds. It disorientates and temporarily blinds multiple targets, but in an enclosed place it will also affect you.

We have little information on which to base any blame. The use of a fragmentation Grenade in an area with suspected hostages would be extremely foolhardy however, but for all the information we have, we do not know if the ISAF troops knew the room was occupied by a hostage or the kind of grenade used, if at all.

For example, the use of a flash-bang in an enclosed space where flammable liquid such a lamp-oil is present could have caused an explosion which detonated ammunition or even just created shrapnel from the items in the room.


Basically until the investigation is complete we really cannot judge one way or the other as we have so little info.

Lets also make no mistake here, Her death is a the result of her kidnapping in the first place.
 
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Foreign Office Minister Jeremy Browne said there had been no attempt to cover up the truth about the rescue operation.

He said: "That was us acting at all stages on the best information that we had supplied to us. But we will have an investigation and we will try and establish as far as is possible, in what sound like completely chaotic circumstances, precisely what happened." (BBC online)
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One does rather wonder what information was supplied and by whom that led to the confident (and misleading) announcement that Linda Norgrove was killed by her captors rather than by some gung-ho American squaddies ?

It sounds as if someone leaked the true story and the US and UK Governments are now trying to "massage the news" as usual.


Whatever, it is desperately sad that so dedicated and selfless a woman has died while trying to help others :(
 
Maybe she was moved? Maybe they did not get the right room in the intel?

Don't automatically judge the guys on the ground.

All I know if you are taking a compound by held by heavily armed men you don't mess around.
 
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