Logitech MX 1100 - anyone got one?

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I'm tempted to pick one up tomorrow as my MX Revolution is getting tired now and my little brother's PC could do with a wireless mouse to match the keyboard which gives me an excuse to give him my MX Rev and get the MX 1100 (:p) I also free up an extra plug socket and space off the desk as the 1100 needs no charger dock.

Cheers!
 
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Coming from several MX1000 and then MX Revolution mice I picked up an MX1100 today as I was after a mouse that freed up a plug socket and some deskspace by not needing a desktop cradle anymore. After a bit of testing I have come to the conclusion that it's not as good (feature wise) as the MX Revolution.

- It is bigger so is nicer to hold than the mx rev

- It weighs almost the same as mx rev once batteries are installed.

- It has DPI changing ability, the lowest setting is no different to the mx rev which I found to be not only the most accurate but also the smoothest and easiet to manage with. Anything higher resulted in the cursor flying around everywhere even with the slightest movement (cursor acceleration disabled first)

- The dpi buttons can be remapped if you don't want to use them for dpi BUT even after remapping the mouse internally adjusts dpi so not only will you have your remapped function but the dpi will change as well since this is a onboard setting and not a software setting - this is a big annoyance.

- The back and fwd side buttons are too far away, they could have been a bit closer to the thumb as you have to move the thumb quite a distance in order to reach the FWD button. Especially since the hidden button is all the way at the button of the thumbrest.

- I actually like the mx revolution's side scroll wheel, I have it remapped to the HOME and END keys, makes instantly flicking to the start and end of a webpage/forum thread easy as pie. I never knew how much I'd miss this as the MX1100 does not have these to extra buttons.

- The mouse wheel middle is easier to press compared to the mx rev, it's a softer microswitch now but because of this you sometimes end up side scrolling because likewise the side scroll buttons are softer microswitches now too!

- I thought the higher DPI was supposed to be more accurate for gaming etc. The only thing I could see from 1600dpi mode was that the cursor flew across the screen so shorter mouse movement = greater onscreen travel at a faster rate. If this is what high dpi mice do then I'm perfectly fine gaming and working with a standard dpi mouse such as MX Rev or MX1000. Perhaps the high dpi mice are designed solely for twitch-gamers.

- The ratchet/freewheel mode is now built into the mouse and is fully mechanical and not automatic (software controlled) meaning you cannot remap the wheel mode switch to the wheel button itself and swap the middle mouse button click to this button (this would have solved the above issue)

- It also does not feel as well built as the mx rev, I think this is where the weight saving has come from. The plastic feels lighter and more hollow.

So yeah, it's getting refunded. It's not a mouse I'd recommend if you've been using an MX Revolution or even an MX1000 because it has too many bugs that cannot be fixed in this model.

I also showed my family both mice and asked them to tell me what they thought about both compared. They said that the MX Revolution looked cooler and more of an upgrade over the MX1100 whilst the MX1100 looks more ergonomic which is very much true.

Roll on MX Revolution 2 !



Comparison to MX Revolution:

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OMG MRK you have wondered out of the Hazro thread lol. Only joking. Nice looking mouse. It's about time I upgraded mine. It's so old its gone all brown, has only left and right click buttons and a scroll wheel. Soooo basic. The more buttons a mouse has the more I seem to accidentally press the wrong ones though!
 
Any reason for the preference ?

I ask because I have heard various people say they don't trust wireless mice because they lag and weigh a lot but always reply with the same, that Logitech ones are the only exception where there is no lag and they weigh as much as a wired mouse (MX Revolution and 1100 anyway weigh only a shade more than 2x AA batteries which is no more or less than a wired mouse).

Battery lifetime is also a complete non issue, mx1100 lasts almost a year on 2xAA whilst Revolution lasts a whole week on one charge. Takes 2-3 hrs to charge fully too or 10mins a day will mean you don't ever run out of juice at all.
 
It certainly doesn't! I had 3 or 4 MX1000 mice since launch, (1 a year almost as I tended to replace it as soon as the mouse feet wore out).

MX Rev and MX1000 performs the same except MX1000 is a fair bit heavier so a bit of a task for snap movements in online fps games (hence the upgrade to MX Rev for me as I upgraded gfx hardware and grew used to high framerates and better exposure to fast movements) and the charger dock has 2x trailing wires whereas the MX rev has 1, just the power lead so is easier to keep further away from the pc tower.

Also the middle click button on the MX1000 was very fiddly. On all the ones I had when you clicked in the middle button you could often also click one of the side buttons - the exact same thing happens with the MX1100 - a trend Logitech have kept in MX1xx series mice it seems :p
 
Ok here is what I have read from real peeps comments.

1) The mouse is obv good like the MX1000 not like the MX Revolution that many inc myself think is crap over the MX1000

2) They welcome the USB for recharge but that's only avail in the Keyboard Kit, the standalone Mouse does not have it (unsure if this means actual no Charging Port as surely if simply a cable you could do it yourself but it does not come with rechargeable battery (again only avail to Keyboard Kit) and I'm sure its sealed like the MX1000.

Ok its not Bluetooth which is great but they also are not using their very good Fast RF its new one with 2.4GHZ and some peeps cannot get the mouse to get signal mere feet away unless USB Reciever is moved to front of case (I have a Front Door), this is bad as its like only 2 feet from front to rear of a PC case.

3) This Mouse is supposed to be coming out with a Recharge Cradle soon like they all should have, this will mean Standalone and Keyboard kits will all recharge and the Receiver will also be a lot closer to the mouse for signal although it should work further than peeps claim it does now.

I am now not buying that Keyboard kit with the Wave Pro Keyboard for now (I ain't sure I even like the Keyboard, I'm waiting on this cradled version. :)
 
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It does use FastRF 2.4GHz (or at the least an improved version), ...where did you hear it didn't?
Logitech have not used anything but FastRF in non bluetooth devices for a long time now. Their site says "Logitech's advanced 2.4 GHz wireless" they also say the same except label it "extreme" for the MX Rev!

I also found no issues with reception with the USB stick plugged in right next to the dinovo keyboard's USB stick and with *** MX rev plugged in on the front USB ports. No issues at all.

It does not have any connections to later add the cradle. It is as dismantle-able as the MX1000 though. Screws are under the feet same as the MX1000.
 
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Fast RF has been out a while, they have changed it or something and its bad going by many peeps comments, many RMA'd it.

I read ALL comments from USA Stores esp the "non old egg" store, as well as many reviews (prefer the real peeps input TBH)

I am desperate for a new Kit but now unsure.

I am like the others, there is no way I will plug it in front as case has Door and it should work only feet away round the rear anyhow.

Yes I know the MX1000 can be took apart to fit a new Lith-Ion Battery but not meant to.

The fact only the KB Kit Mouse can recharge is bad.

If your Mouse only lacking the battery or actual Port (does it use normal USB cable at Mouse end) ?.
 
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I'm still unable to determine what the issues are you are trying to refer to and why they are issues...

Are you saying the updated FastRF isbuggy and now worse? if so then my testing certainlly didn't show it to be so, it's no different to MX1000 or MX Revolution. Even when used at the same time as the revolution and with the logitech keyboard USB wireless stick plugged in too so basically 3x wireless 2.4ghz receivers plugged into the same pc.

Also I don't see what the issue is with not having recharge dock, you do realise the MX1100 battery lasts 9months so the need for a cradle is 0 !?

You'll always read the negative stuff more online, the MX 1000 and MX Revolution have a shedload of negative comments such as sticky buttons, battery not charging, battery charge contacts not working, cradle dying, connection dropping etc etc. Doesn't mean you will experience the same though (I never have and I've always had Logitech wired and wireless kit).

If you buy it you can always return it within a certain time period for a full refund so there's never anything to lose out form other than gaining vital experience in that product model.

MX1100 does have bugs like I mentioned above but none of them are to do with the wireless transmission or the battery.
 
Exactly what I have said, cannot make it any clearer and this is from normal peeps who bought it.

Saving cash on batteries is not my issue, I and others simply like the cradle, keeps mouse in 1 place and it is handy.

The MX Rev BTW does get bad comments over the MX1000 and on this very forum from peeps who thought they were upgrading buying it.

I have always use Logitech and the MX 1000 is simply the best so far (unsure on MX 1100 for now till new Cradled Kit arrives).
 
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So you're not going to try it for yourself (since you are clearly curious, as I was) just because some "normal" people say it doesn't work for them?

Balls up! try it... "normal" people are often dumb, many will have their wireless routers and USB receivers right next to the PC which can cause interference or other wireless devices. Problem is resolved when the offending interference is moved away from the PC.

Also problems may occur on older computers, computers that are badly configured or computers that have loads of crap on them installed to start with (too common with "normal" people), anyone coming from a techhelp background will agree.

Now since you say normal people have commented on the wireless issues etc I am unwilling to believe it was not a problem with those people's computers instead! at least for half of those systems anyway..

You'll also find a happy MX Rev user for every unhappy one on these forums or any other for that matter. I too did my research before getting MX1000 and MX Rev. This is why I buy things I'm curious about and return them if not happy since I've always found that it's a 50/50 chance you will fall into the catagory of people who have problems or those who don't.

Same goes for anything really from Windows Vista to Virgin broadband etc.

Regarding these devices tough, it's one of the reasons you won't find a single mention of those issues people report on professional reviews since reviewers machines are often clean or done on fresh review machines so there is unlikely to be any conflicts with other hardware or software.
 
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I accept many have WiFi next to it and I do not but it should still work, homes are full of 2.4GHZ kit in DECT phones, they should not interfere with one another.

I really am trying hard to like it but I ain't into the DPI Controls (you touch on it) and I do not like the Keyboard TBH.

At times I feel Logitech take a step backwards and ruin new products over predecessors.

And no I ain't gonna order it to simply DSA it, I will do some more homework 1st and probably skip the MX 1100 and keep my MX1000.

BTW, "normal peeps" feedback is welcomed by me over crappy review sites who basically print what they are told to (are you not a normal peep/real user" here reviewing it ? ;)

I've bought many an item that's got good reviews and its buggy crap.
 
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It certainly doesn't! I had 3 or 4 MX1000 mice since launch, (1 a year almost as I tended to replace it as soon as the mouse feet wore out).
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I've got nothing to add to the main conversation so sorry for jumping in with a nice OT comment, but it's a real shame you switched your mouse just for worn out feet! Both Hyperglide and Corepad (not competitors right since they're actual manufacturers?) have replacements for the mx1000 among other mice.
 
I upgraded my mx1000 to a mx rev mouse, but didnt like it much so I sold it and went back to my mx 1000, I think the mx1000 is a far better then the mx rev. At the end of the day the mx1000 mouse ROCKS and thrashes the mx rev in all areas accept for the cool wheel. I will be trying the mx1100 when it comes with a cradle, and hopefully I wont be as disapointed like I was with the mx rev.

1. The response on the me rev didnt feel as quick as the mx1000, like the mx1000 comes out of sleep mode almost instantly and the mx rev dont.
2 The batt with the mx rev only last 2-3days if your lucky, but mx1000 last over a week easy.
3 the mx1000 feels much better in the hand then the mx rev, with the mx rev my hand kept slipping off amd didnt feel very comfortable to use. I think thats the main reason I went back to my mx1000. The mx1000 fits like a glove in the hand,

Oh yeah big diff going back to the mx 1000 after using the mx rev, its just in a diff league then the mx rev. Oh yeh I dont use the middle button, but yeh the middle button is very hard to use without scrolling the wheel.
 
If your battery was lasting only 2 days then it was faulty! No 2 ways about that! All my mx 1000 and rev batteries lasted a full week on a full charge every single time. This is me course spanning around 5yrs of usage over several mx nice :-)
Cheers above for the feet link, i will keep them in mind if mx rev 2 does not come soon. Posting from a k750i so excuse the punctuation!
 
All feet esp Teflon are crap, they wear out.

You want the best and prob last feet you ever need here : http://www.slicksurf.com/

From reading 100's of peeps comments in stores section, most who upgraded to a MX Rev from a MX 1000 were not happy and some even went back to old mouse (if MX 1000 was not actually broken).

I'm happy MRK loves his MX Rev and MX 1100 but cannot push it on others, if they hate it for whatever reason that is their choice (I tried it and simply did not like it and the Clutched Scroll Wheel is pointless to me as I do not use Spreadsheets nowadays). :)

I am waiting on the cradled version of this mouse and ideally hope to either like the Wave KB or its avail with another KB because it will be a KB Kit I buy.
 
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helmutcheese said:
I'm happy MRK loves his MX Rev and MX 1100 but cannot push it on others, if they hate it for whatever reason that is their choice (I tried it and simply did not like it and the Clutched Scroll Wheel is pointless to me as I do not use Spreadsheets nowadays). :)
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It's not just for spreadsheets though, you're kind of seeing only one side to the whole thing here which is partly the blame for your dislike of these mice!

The freewheel mode is excellent for seemless web browsing, a primary example is the highres screenshot threads on the pc gaming section of ocuk forums. It's simply effortless to whisk through the thread and instantly stop when a screenshot grabs your attention.

Demo:
- Standard scroll mouse (too time consuming, too tasking with endless scrolling)
- Freewheel clutchless mode (skim the thread in one or two flicks of the wheel or stop at any spot by stopping the wheel with your finger, easy!)
- Side scroll wheel (scrolling to start and end of page)

I'm not trying to sell an MX mouse to people here, I'm focusing on the positive and trying to educate this motion! If people don't try it they're not going to see for themselves IMO and because a handful of people had issues with either mouse does not mean everyone else will.

As for the vids, see what I mean by how much more accessible it makes web browsing large content pages quickly? Sure you could use your left hand on the KB and use HOME/END but it's another task to do if you're sitting back skimming through threads or websites with one hand on mouse only :)

It's not just on line where I've found the wheel an awesome tool though, in music playing software you can skim huge playlists in the exact same manner - very useful.

This next bit goes for all the new Logitech mice with the wheel, it's also easier on the fingers in freewheel mode, not having to feel the ratchets scrolling large pages feels great and less fatiguing on the fingers after a long day!
 
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