Long string of problems with a new system

Harlon

Harlon

Harlon

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RIght recently i decided to get myself a new machine and not knowing that much i based what i bought on this rather helpful thread http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18060182

from that i went ahead i bought
most items from the £700 intel build with the exception of the case and the PSU
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with that i transfered these into the new machine
Corsair VX 450W ATX Power Supply (CMPSU-450VXUK)
Pioneer DVR-212DBK 18x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM
Hitachi Deskstar 7K160 160GB SATA-II 8MB Cache - OEM

now i find that my PSU cant handle the 4890 which is warming up a little to much for comfort so i decided to swap it back over for the old X1950 PRO

So now everything is set up i pop in XP PRO and install that followed by the drivers for the mobo
Problems start when i try to install the drivers for the X1950 from the CD which it came with at a certain stage which is roughly 15% ish on the progress bar (estimated) the machine desides its not happy and reboots without any warning
when its finished i look into the add/remove programs window and ofcourse the ATI drivers havnt installed, so i try to download the drivers from the ATI site and get the latest version of CCC i start installing that and the machine throws another hissy fit.
In vain i attempt to use the install fle from the ATI site one more time when it decides to comply to my request.

So next i decided to install World of warcraft next and while installing at 3% my lovely new build decides once again its not happy and reboots itself
Now this time i get an error where windows tells me it has encountered a critical error and had to shut down i try to find out more info and i get nothing

If anyone has advice or questions that may help me fix this i would be extreemly grateful as right now i have no idea where to start looking to fix this as i dont even know what the problem is
 
If its a dodgy windows, and quite possible a power issue, you could try logging in safe mode, see if that works.

My second thought would be that your PSU aint enough to handle.
 
One thing i didnt quite point out was that i gave up on windows 7 and chose to go back to win XP for the time being as the drivers i was looking for aparently didnt exist

anyway back on subject i went to ATI's site and looked at the trusted PSUs and got myself a
Corsair TX 750W ATX SLI Compliant Power Supply (CMPSU-750TXUK)

Also im not sure what you meant by running a minimal setup with essential parts?

About the memtest i finaly managed to get it onto a disc and removed the 2nd stick of RAM and ran the test so far its done 1 pass and already im staring at 2500 errors and ill leave it running over night and test the other stick tomorrow

If both sticks turn out to be "faulty" what is the likelyhood its a compatibility issue or just a set or that they are actualy faulty and is it worth me running the tests again after i install the new PSU?
 
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Harlon said:
One thing i didnt quite point out was that i gave up on windows 7 and chose to go back to win XP for the time being as the drivers i was looking for aparently didnt exist

anyway back on subject i went to ATI's site and looked at the trusted PSUs and got myself a
Corsair TX 750W ATX SLI Compliant Power Supply (CMPSU-750TXUK)

Also im not sure what you meant by running a minimal setup with essential parts?
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Just one stick of RAM in the motherboard, one hard drive, graphics, basically the bare minimum required to boot up the machine.

Harlon said:
About the memtest i finaly managed to get it onto a disc and removed the 2nd stick of RAM and ran the test so far its done 1 pass and already im staring at 2500 errors and ill leave it running over night and test the other stick tomorrow
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There's your likely issue then.

Harlon said:
If both sticks turn out to be "faulty" what is the likelyhood its a compatibility issue or just a set or that they are actualy faulty and is it worth me running the tests again after i install the new PSU?
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If both have errors I'd suggest contacting the store for advice on replacement or refund.
 
i tried the minmal approach seeing as thats basicaly what i have barring the extra stick of RAM

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counting that many errors in so few passes is it worth me continuing the test or should i just move onto the 2nd stick?
 
the 4890 lists a 500 watt psu as a requirement and yours is only 450, yes it depends on other stuff in your system as the requirement i reckon does give a bit of leeway but this would be the first thing i'd look at.
 
small update
After running 4 passes n the 1st stick of RAM i was looking at over 10k errors i decided that was probably enough for me to assume that the ram was faulty and i started running the test on the 2nd stick and as expected it poped up with over 7000 errors in just 10 mins on the walltime

also jamie i read what you said but as i pointed out that earlier thats not really my problem at the moment as after i realised my mistake i swapped out the 4890 for an x1950 pro which was working fine in my previous machine so i doubt im overloading the 450W PSU currently
with

Mobo: MSI P55-GD65
CPU: Intel Core i5 750 2.66Ghz (Lynnfield)
Video card: ATi Radeon X1950 PRO
RAM: OCZ Obsidian 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9
Case: antec 900
HDD: Hitachi Deskstar 7K160 160GB
 
right i know what voltage should be applied to the ram but im unsure how i go about actualy checking to see what is being applied
 
Harlon said:
right i know what voltage should be applied to the ram but im unsure how i go about actualy checking to see what is being applied
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You need to enter the motherboard BIOS (to alter settings such as voltage) by pressing\holding the delete key on startup. It should say this underneath the POST (power on self test) screen anyway, which appears as soon as you power on the system.
 
Strangely nothing is displayed under the POST screen but thats not an issue

I get into the BIOS and see that the DRAM Voltage(V) is set on [AUTO]
the help menu tells me that the settings are
AUTO: 1.500V
Min: 0.906V
Max: 2.405V
If user keyin voltage BIOS will select the closest value

entering 1.65 results in the bios setting it to 1.651 should i try this and see how i get on or am i rght in thinking that the auto setting of 1.5 should not be any problem?
 
ok so i exit the bios and boot up XP normaly and then my wireless network connection has strangely vanished from the network connecttions list so i go to reboot again and then midway through the process when i get the windows loading screen it reboots itself AGAIN

i really dont know why this is proving to be so difficult the machine i had previously never had any problems at all which suprised me for the 1st computer i ever put to together but this 1 seems to be causing me endless amounts of grief and i have no idea why


Also something ive just picked up on, when im actualy in windows iif i go to system properties it tells me i have 1.99GB of RAM which is strange as i have 2x2GB sticks installed so yet another problem my machine has thrown at me
 
Harlon said:
ok so i exit the bios and boot up XP normaly and then my wireless network connection has strangely vanished from the network connecttions list so i go to reboot again and then midway through the process when i get the windows loading screen it reboots itself AGAIN

i really dont know why this is proving to be so difficult the machine i had previously never had any problems at all which suprised me for the 1st computer i ever put to together but this 1 seems to be causing me endless amounts of grief and i have no idea why


Also something ive just picked up on, when im actualy in windows iif i go to system properties it tells me i have 1.99GB of RAM which is strange as i have 2x2GB sticks installed so yet another problem my machine has thrown at me
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Why are you surprised by this?! The RAM is fubar no?! Get it replaced then try again:)
 
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