Looper
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Ok Big spoiler here
In the end, the guy shots himself. If that happened he wouldn't exist in the future to go back in time for the most of the film to happen!
The character who has various body parts removed show that actions in the present only affect those from who have come back from the future at the same time as they happen in the present - otherwise he would have been unable to come back in the first place.
Why do you think there's a fade to white instead of a fade to black?
Time travel isnt real though so its up to the individual film to define how it 'works'.
Yeah but their version of time travel still has to make sense be logical within the film limits. It just didn't seem so to me and other people I've spoken to.
But it does make sense.
The fade to white at the end indicates that the reality of the film is either imagined, unreal or some how not true in some way. With Joe killing himself, the fade to white shows that the events of the film didn't happen. Or couldn't have happened.
The best example of this is the fade to white at the end Total Recall. The director claims this is because Quaid is lobotomized at the end of the film, lending credence to the idea that the events after Quaid goes to recall are, all in fact, in his head.
Or in Lost where the H-bomb explodes at the end of season five, creating an alternate reality.
Well if that the case no one I was with spotted or understood what reference. So, it doesn't explain its logic very well.
It's the first time I've heard about....
colour fading meaning something.
Glad I never watched Lost beyond the first few episodes!
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It's a pretty common trope in visual media.
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I don't get it:
is the idea of Bruce willis character being killed essentially a sacrifice so that the kid can live and now the fact that the mother is aware of this stuff can better bring up the child meaning that he doesn't go on to become a psychotic and wipe out all the loopers on a whim?
I think so, but it's never resolved so there's always the chance that Joe's death was for nothing.
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Good Film, better than some I've seen lately.. Didn't try to be too complicated and you could pick out the references from other films easy enough.
Definitely worth a watch.
Definitely worth a watch.
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I see that some people have kind of touched on this, but there is a bit of a plot flaw that I noticed too:
The implication at the end of the film is that old Joe is the one that will cause the child to turn evil (by killing the child's mother and therefore leaving him alone and angry), but it seems to me that at some point, before the cycle began of the child turning evil and old Joe coming back to kill him, there must have been another person who killed his mum? Otherwise old Joe wouldn't have any experience of 'the rainmaker', because the child wouldn't turn evil.
I think the explanation of the fade to white at the end as offered by Woody makes the most sense
I think the explanation of the fade to white at the end as offered by Woody makes the most sense
Yea I did wonder this. In the future rainmaker was evil, which we are lead to believe is because Joe went back in time and killed his mother. I guess experiences that occur back in time are cloudy, otherwise future Joe would know what happened in the past when he went back ...
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Arr but is he realy
Evil ? He takes out the crime bosses and takes their places, and he also retires the loopers maybe he's just trying to protect people by as he see's it removing the "bad" people.. is he Powerfull ? Yes Is he Evil ? maybe not.. 
personal to me the film ending made no sense, i did enjoy the film tho and well worth going to see.
the reason why it made no sense to me was we know from earlier in the film that if young joe dies while old joe is in the present then time reset it self we saw this when he fell of the fire escape and the next scene was him back in the film waiting for old joe to arrive. therefore when young joe shot him self time should have reset back to him waiting for old joe to arrive in the present