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The last thing he will want is to be forgotten.
Lostprophets Singer Facing Child Sex Charges
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I think this is a pretty revolting attitude towards the victims of child abuse: are you seriously suggesting that they're so damaged that it would be better if they were killed? Really? Do you think that's an appropriate way to talk about victims of terrible crimes? Do you think that's an appropriate way to think about victims of terrible crimes?
In fact, of course, while mental illness, depression and so on are more common in victims of sexual abuse; most gone on to have fulfilled lives. In the case of the babies raped by this particular vile waste of air I suspect that they'll actually suffer no direct consequences since I doubt they'll remember a thing (NOT that this somehow make it okay); it's the failure of their primary caregivers and the consequent life in care that is likely to cause most harm.
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Frankly, if a 35yr prison sentence isn't gonna put someone off, I doubt the threat of execution would either.
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While I agree that murder is worse (no chance of recovery for the child), I don't believe he was suggesting it would be better if they were killed in the way you implied.
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Different issue. That doesn't make it a deterrent, does it?Only one way to guarantee he never thinks of doing it again
Would make people who have similar desires think twice I imagine.
Get caught, you get strung up for all to see
No, I'm saying that child abuse can destroy the most vulnerable members of society (children)
No, I'm not saying that victims of child abuse should be killed. wtf
I'd argue that raping a child, could be morally worse than murdering somebody - many people are capable of murder, in many cases murder may be the result of an understandable series of events, but raping a child can only be done by the most monstrous of people, as far as I'm concerned - there can be no defence or motive understandable, which would explain raping a child,
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Because money is deemed more important than raping children
Judges have to adhere to sentencing guidelines, they can't just make it up as they go along regardless of the severity of the crime.
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The nature of such deviancies is that they're compulsive and irrational, or people wouldn't do it. The nature of that kind of person is that they don't consider the consequences of what they're doing, or else their compulsion to act out their deviancy overrides their fear of the consequences. You can threaten them with whatever you like, and it won't stop them.Would make people who have similar desires think twice I imagine.
Get caught, you get strung up for all to see
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While I agree with the first part - I would argue that as a fair comparison you would need to compare murdering a child (which can't be done by any understandable series of events, such as provocation/self-defence) - which in reality is usually manslaughter not murder anyway.
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Reading those remarks... wow. Just... wow.
Megalolz indeed. What an utter, utter, piece of walking detritus.
Megalolz indeed. What an utter, utter, piece of walking detritus.
Whether it acts as a deterrent or not I couldn't care either way but if you are caught committing or having committed any of these acts against a child, you should be strung up or at the very least castrated.
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Well your original comment that I replied to was making the point that it would act as a deterrent, so that's what I was addressing. I would suggest that the most important thing is protecting children, right? So if stringing people up doesn't protect children, maybe it would be better to spend time and energy on finding other ways to prevent people offending. If we actually care about children rather than just dick waving.
Yeah,
I'd have to concede that murdering a child is physically worse than raping one in terms of the damage caused, it would be nonsense to suggest otherwise.
But I think it could be argued, that an individual who has a sexual lust for raping children, is more dangerous to society, because they're driven by sexual lust - because of this there would be more risk of escalation, it suggests a person with no moral compass at all, perhaps the same could be said of a child murderer, but I don't really have any strong opinions over who is worse morally, in that sense..
I don't know, I don't even have that strong opinion, it's just difficult to say what you mean in these sorts of discussions
Do you know that it wouldn't act as a deterrent?
I imagine a high profile hanging of some kiddy fiddler would certainly raise concerns with anyone thinking or committing those crimes now. 35 years behind bars is no deterrent, losing your life would be.
Yes I imagine it would be a better way but until someone can come up with a way of stopping people having these desires I think that we should erase them from the human race, they are no good to society and do not deserve to breathe the same air.
I can understand the point regarding the death sentence for murder etc as there is always mitigating circumstances in every case, with regards to ****ing kids there's no excuse for that and should be dealt with using the harshest penalty possible.
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in terms of the damaged caused to who?
i cannot and do not want to think about the psychological damage this will have on the abused babies if they ever find out what happened to them under the instruction of their own mother.