I'm not quite sure about that. They certainly do ask for it to use it as a filter, but whether they actually value it, I'm unsure of it and have not experienced it myself. Why do you say that?
Lying on your C.V.
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I'm not quite sure about that. They certainly do ask for it to use it as a filter, but whether they actually value it, I'm unsure of it and have not experienced it myself. Why do you say that?
[TW]Fox;18522610 said:
I'd presume there is more to it than just that. I have not read the article, sorry. But either way, it's just one person out of the zillions that have lied in their cv's and got hired/fired for it. I wouldn't take one case as a reference point!
I'm not saying it's impossible, just that nobody would bother.
Soldato
See my above post - it's not a personal experience, but of friends. Seems to be an immutable requirement - of HR I bet, not the employer.
Soldato
They don't value it higher, they just consider it first, if you don't meet the a-level boundaries then your degree will never be considered. They do this because it's the highest qualification most people applying will have, and they need a uniform application process.
Soldato
Exactly - it's hatchet job at best. But it's done. Which is why people lie, or like me, you avoid said companies.
Indeed, my bad word. I should've said "first".
Soldato
it's a requirement of the application process, when the majority of people applying are undergrads the first filtering pass is going to be on pre-uni qualifications.
There are so many thousands applying for every graduate position that the simplicity this brings outweighs the few who will slip through with better degrees.
Caporegime
Your friend could be charged with fraud. I seem to remember someone who got a top job somewhere had lied, and when it hit the fan he was prosecuted and sued by the employer seeking to get his salary back, and damages.
Soldato
If he hits the ground running and impresses the hell out of collegues and bosses, it may never come up. It is a stick to be beaten with if they start looking for staff cuts and he is not top of the intake.
Personally I would not and did not, however at 58, my CV would not span that far back unless it was a book.
At least he is in banking, you would prefer a lying banker to a lying doctor.
Personally I would not and did not, however at 58, my CV would not span that far back unless it was a book.
At least he is in banking, you would prefer a lying banker to a lying doctor.
Yeah, 'cause lying bankers never caused us any problems before, right? *cough*Enron&Lehmann&Madoff*cough*
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[TW]Fox;18522610 said:
Sections 1 and 2 of the fraud act would cover it.
Fraud by false representation
I once lived with a mature student who lied about his A-levels to get onto a university course. This was about 10 years ago now and he told them that he had BBB.
His lies only came to light in his second year when he seriously fell out with another of my housemates. The other housemate knew about him lying and grassed him up to the university.
Turns out that not only did he not have BBB at A-level, he actually didn't have any A-levels at all! The university promptly kicked him out and I never saw him again.
I wonder if he would ever have been caught if he hadn't boasted about doing it.
Ah, different situation. Serious balls up on his part there though!! I remember after my A-Levels I was able to find out if my university applications had been accepted at midnight of results day, but couldn't find out my results until I picked them up from college later that day.
Only time I've ever woken up the entire house with so much noise and didn't get a thick ear for it
[TW]Fox;18521714 said:
Yes it is, and if he lied about his A levels, it is a very simple check for the employer to verify them.
I would say that he could be in a lot of trouble if he is ever found out.
People lie, or exaggerate about their experience or interests on CV's that is a given, however lying about your qualifications to gain employment is a criminal offence.
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it could technically be fraud by flase representation - basically acting dishonestly to cause gain to themselves or loss to another...
this being he has falsely represented himself as being more clever than he is in order to get to the next stage, he has acted dishonestly by lying and his gain will be financial (becoming employed - or losing the company money, admin costs, re interviewing etc...)
this being he has falsely represented himself as being more clever than he is in order to get to the next stage, he has acted dishonestly by lying and his gain will be financial (becoming employed - or losing the company money, admin costs, re interviewing etc...)
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From my experience FTSE 100 companies use Experian's Background Checking service which reviews CV's for education / qualifications, employment history together with references obtained and depending on the job role there maybe a CRB check too.
You will be able to work out which companies use this service as it will state on the application form that they may share your information with a 3rd party to get assurances.
Much safer to be honest on your CV rather than face getting a criminal record which will reduce your odds in getting employment.
You will be able to work out which companies use this service as it will state on the application form that they may share your information with a 3rd party to get assurances.
Much safer to be honest on your CV rather than face getting a criminal record which will reduce your odds in getting employment.
Man of Honour
You've raised an interesting point there, I wouldn't consider vLookups or IF statements advanced Excel - probably intermediate level with possibly certain macro programming being advanced. But it's interesting because we'd probably rate our level of knowledge very differently even if our actual knowledge/skill level was fairly similar.
On your CV you're a 18 year old girl with no interest in computers and an open attitude to new sexual adventures?