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Man city escape ban! [Update 14/2/20 - 2 year CL ban]

Discussion in 'The Football Stadium' started by Mark1989, Aug 13, 2019.

  1. ThestigGT999

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    uefa helping liverpool???
     
  2. BaZ87

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    I'll humour you. How have UEFA helped Liverpool? Man Utd could potentially qualify for the Europa League thanks to this ruling! Be grateful stiggy.
     
  3. Derek W

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    Instead of banning them from Europe, just fine them 500million which is distributed to the NHS / police / fire service or another underfunded sector which is more meaningful than a bunch of fannies falling over who call themselves sportsmen :o
     
  4. Shamikebab

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    You realise UEFA isn't English right?
     
  5. ThestigGT999

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    if it will hinder man city's transfers in any way it would be benifical for the pool
     
  6. BaZ87

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    By that thinking it will benefit every side then, not just Liverpool. Or are you saying that Liverpool are the greatest side in the world and the financially doped Man City are the only possible side that could challenge us?
     
  7. ThestigGT999

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    in the short term yes
     
  8. Robbo

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    It'll get overturned. Meh.
     
  9. Derek W

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    Of course. But any sort of fine going from one club to a corrupt organisation doesn't really help anyone.
     
  10. BaZ87

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    Maybe so but I don't think any organisation, let alone a corrupt one, is going to sugguest the fine which they were due to receive goes to our NHS :p
     
  11. adam cool dude

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    Why? City being banned from Europe means they will put all their effort into the league.

    It all depends if Pep stays and they can attract the players.
     
  12. BaZ87

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    City being out of Europe would have massive knock on effects. Forget Pep and key players wanting to leave, City might not even be able to afford to keep them. With matchday revenue, sponsorship bonuses and of course TV money from being in the CL, City will have a £100m hole in their finances.

    People often forget that we have FFP in the PL too and the PL are already investigating City but even if City avoid punishment from the PL for historically cheating their way around FFP, they will have to make significant cut backs in order not to breach FFP moving forwards.
     
  13. fez

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    £50 for De Bruyne?
     
  14. BaZ87

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    He grew up as a Liverpool fan, you never know.
     
  15. Stretch

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    This is most significant part of the ruling imo. Even after appeal city surly have to face at least a season out of Europe. But they somehow also need change their business model and I just cannot see them competing without the vast subsidy from Qatar. The club just isn't big enough.
     
  16. drunkenmaster

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    Yeah but that's basically laughable.

    DA sent video of dude straight up murdering someone, DA says lol, we have video of dude murdering someone, he's going to jail. Arrests dude, takes him to trial, gets guilty verdict and sends him to jail. Then the dude complains because the DA decided his guilt before the trial... yeah you ******* idiot, because they had the full evidence when deciding to charge you and knew you were guilty already.

    Several accounts seem to be saying that they basically got e-mails and other things that proved their guilt so they opened and investigation and confirmed the guilt then finding them guilty. Knowing you were guilty because they had the evidence which caused them to officially open the investigation doesn't mean the investigation was a farce.

    City are going to lose hugely. This is the same as the guy who reported on, I forget what it was now, I think the image rights shenanigans who got threatened immediately by City lawyers insisting they take a story (I think published in the independent) down. They sent a long response detailing the facts they had and the accuracy of the story, City never replied and never actually tried to take them to trial.

    Outwardly speaking out doesn't mean they have a leg to stand on. If the CAS will find it fair punishment or if they will find a loophole that says okay while FFP is a nice idea and they signed up to it, it's not really legal to enforce so even though they are guilty we find against UEFA. So to me it seems they are 100% guilty of breaking FFP, but CAS could simply find FFP to not be legally enforceable in the first place. After things like BOSMAN rulings you'd think they'd work hard to make sure it is enforceable but we'll see.


    Also quite funny, got into loads of long discussions about City and PSG and dodgy sponsorship deals and trying to hide how much they spend being told City totally know how to do it and everything is above board. Can only hope PSG get utterly screwed soon as well as their deals are as bogus. Oh, a team in a tiny league with poor viewing figures makes more than every team in europe and a fair market price for their shirt sponsorship is like 4x what Utd were going to get (at the time, I think it was like 50mil vs 200mil right?).
     
  17. drunkenmaster

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    Wait for the City ground to suddenly be full to capacity every single game despite the ticket price having shot up to £300 a ticket, and City suddenly making £200mil a year from Stadium income. At the same time Qatar make a donation to a new Manchester Charity that funds tickets for fans who, can't afford them, can't work, or don't like Mondays.

    Magically City can afford to run at a profit again.
     
  18. And

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    And why would Qatar be making a donation pray tell?

     
  19. Toekiller

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    Should be stripped of all titles. They've won things with players they shouldn't have been able to purchase.
     
  20. fez

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    Because the whole thing is a corrupt racket in much the same way as Spanish clubs being bankrolled by the state.

    The BBC seems to think that City losing the CL money won’t effect them financially because of their rich owners which makes 0 sense. If they couldn’t abide by FFP with the CL money, they certainly won’t be able to without. They would just keep getting banned.