Soldato
I had it years ago, it was an optional extra on the Clifford alarm system, iirc it's called Blackjax.
Man killed as thieves take car from outside his house
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I had it years ago, it was an optional extra on the Clifford alarm system, iirc it's called Blackjax.
Soldato
There is a newer version called Ghost. You enter a code to start the car.
Soldato
It's terrible story and situation, I understand they had either got the keys or cloned and he went out as they tried to drive away. I guess his back ground and training in the end resulted in the tragic outcome. It's so infuriating these days that as soon as someone has something nice or is successfull others feel they have right or need to take it away.
We recently were also a victim of such car thieves. We were way on holiday, only gone two days, when at 11.34 am on a Monday morning they broke into the house and went looking for the RS keys, parked outside on the drive. We also live on the main bus route! Just no fear or care it seems. Car has disk lock and extra security, so they could see they need the keys to take it... or a crane.
Turns out the design and age of the house had a weak rear door where the bottom panel kicks in easily. The alarm was trigged, no one did anything. We were fortunate, they did no more than leave draws open and pull a few PIR sensors off the wall as they went through the house..
They didn't find the keys, as i had at least ensured they weren't about.
So now we are having a high security door fitted, security lighting, CCTV, Smart water, anti climb spikes, new locks, internal locks, updated alarm..the list goes on.
Might also add the Autowatch Ghost system as well, as a keyless system to the car.
I'd say to anyone with something nice on the drive, walk around your house and rethink how secure is the house. Get experts in to take a look. Experience like this makes you rethink your habits and security, when you do it's quiet scary how complacent you can become. It's all about slowing them down and make progress difficult and risky.
I know how we feel with our minor incident, so can't even imagine how it must be for the poor mans partner and family.
We recently were also a victim of such car thieves. We were way on holiday, only gone two days, when at 11.34 am on a Monday morning they broke into the house and went looking for the RS keys, parked outside on the drive. We also live on the main bus route! Just no fear or care it seems. Car has disk lock and extra security, so they could see they need the keys to take it... or a crane.
Turns out the design and age of the house had a weak rear door where the bottom panel kicks in easily. The alarm was trigged, no one did anything. We were fortunate, they did no more than leave draws open and pull a few PIR sensors off the wall as they went through the house..
They didn't find the keys, as i had at least ensured they weren't about.
So now we are having a high security door fitted, security lighting, CCTV, Smart water, anti climb spikes, new locks, internal locks, updated alarm..the list goes on.
Might also add the Autowatch Ghost system as well, as a keyless system to the car.
I'd say to anyone with something nice on the drive, walk around your house and rethink how secure is the house. Get experts in to take a look. Experience like this makes you rethink your habits and security, when you do it's quiet scary how complacent you can become. It's all about slowing them down and make progress difficult and risky.
I know how we feel with our minor incident, so can't even imagine how it must be for the poor mans partner and family.
Just a couple of hidden kill switches on a car is enough to make it practically impossible to steal. No amount of ECU hacking or key cloning can bypass it.
It's sad that EU regulations and "convenience" that no one actually asked for is taking us back to 80s levels of car security and theft.
Also storing the keys in metal tin works, I tested it. No signal at all reaches the car even if your right next to it
It's sad that EU regulations and "convenience" that no one actually asked for is taking us back to 80s levels of car security and theft.
Also storing the keys in metal tin works, I tested it. No signal at all reaches the car even if your right next to it
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you would have to be a moron to tell them that you handed the keys over. i'm sure the insurance company can then avoid paying out unless it was under duress which in this case it was i imagine.
all you need to state is the car was stolen, it's been reported to the police, here is the crime ref number. tell police and insurance you have no idea how they stole said car. it's their job to figure it out.
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yes. i've seen a video on youtube of 2 guys stealing a new BMW without any keys and without breaking into the house either but what looked like some sort of amplifier using the signal from the keyless keys inside the house to unlock the car, start the engine and drive away.
Where did you get that list? Not saying wrong, just seems there are many lists out there from a quick google. God knows which is legit.
The top 10 stolen cars
(Theft rate per 1,000 vehicles on the road)
Audi S3: 8.6
Land Rover Defender: 5.8
Land Rover Range Rover: 3.8
Audi Q7: 3.7
Ford Escort: 3.6
BMW X5: 3.1
Audi A5: 3.1
Mitsubishi Shogun: 2.4
BMW 5 Series: 2.4
Toyota Hilux: 2.4
Source: National Vehicle Crime Intelligence Service
i got it online.............somewhere!
that list is about the average, BMWs..........RANGE ROVERS...........MERCS...........AUDIS
but the really expensive cars (lambos etc) are usually hidden from view in massive houses of about 3 acres or more, but the cars listed above are more likely to be on view as you walk by, especially in the evening.
why aren't the Ferraris at the Lyndurst garage ever stolen, because they're on view all day and all night ??????????...........there must be a clue there somewhere !!!!!!!!!!
http://www.meridien.co.uk/
that list is about the average, BMWs..........RANGE ROVERS...........MERCS...........AUDIS
but the really expensive cars (lambos etc) are usually hidden from view in massive houses of about 3 acres or more, but the cars listed above are more likely to be on view as you walk by, especially in the evening.
why aren't the Ferraris at the Lyndurst garage ever stolen, because they're on view all day and all night ??????????...........there must be a clue there somewhere !!!!!!!!!!
http://www.meridien.co.uk/
Surprised to see the Ford Escort there.
It's easier to break down/sell a high end car and also easier to hide as they won't stand out. They're probably more in demand from overseas 'markets' as they're more useful than a Lambo.
Caporegime
You really do operate on a different planet to the rest of us.
Caporegime
Yes, you would get locked-up for shooting someone with a 50-cal because he came at you with a rather aggressive looking feather.
You can defend yourself with reasonable force.
You can defend yourself with reasonable force.
Man of Honour
Also storing the keys in metal tin works, I tested it. No signal at all reaches the car even if your right next to it
I like this. I'll start doing it
Soldato
This happened a few streets away, not good at all.
I've seen people recommend bollards but I feel like it's just another key they'd stab you for. I used to have a kill switch in my Jeep that the previous owner had fitted. That seems like to simplest solution but probably impractical for most.
I've seen people recommend bollards but I feel like it's just another key they'd stab you for. I used to have a kill switch in my Jeep that the previous owner had fitted. That seems like to simplest solution but probably impractical for most.
you're too soft !!!! i have weapons inside and if someone breaks in i'll attack them.
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+1
what is considered reasonable though is open to interpretation. you literally have 1 second to decide whether or not you think it's worth hitting him with the bat before they get the upper hand. how do you know he doesn't have a screwdriver or a blade in his pocket? you hesitate and your dead in that scenario. what is considered reasonable force to defend your home and family? is smacking someone in the head 5 times with a bat reasonable? 4? 3? where do you draw the line?
also if lights are off or if he's wearing a mask / covering his face, you can't tell if he's 20 or 60. to be safe it's best to knock him unconscious and ask questions later. by doing so your risking killing him.
your best bet is to just say nothing when the police turn up apart from i found this guy like this in my living room, he must have fell over. don't say anything which can be used against you. or don't phone the police at all if the guy has taken a good hiding and all your possessions are still in good order.
police like handing our official cautions these days like candy.
Man of Honour
Hey officer, it looks like he fell over and banged his head on my baseball bat several times. Talk about unlucky!
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Personally wouldn't fancy them coming back to me demanding how to start the thing