Manchester Bombing *** Please remain respectful and refrain from antagonising posts ***

Sad to see this news. Not really surprised but sad nonetheless. And to think the girlfriend and I had Manchester on our list of potential places to settle if we ever came back to the UK. Yes, could happen absolutely anywhere but larger cities are always a target.
 
We can't keep going on like this, something has to change. Look at the way Trump was cosying up to SA recently, selling them arms etc and we know they support their particularly aggressive form of Islam in this country. It just seems mental, our government aren't doing anything to stop the problem at source, only reacting to threats and reports and tip offs etc.
 
USA and British governments are already trying that and it has not worked so far and never will do unless they are prepared to commit mass genocide..

Probably counts as extreme measures, alongside up and actually kicking everyone out who looks even vaguely arab.

Whatever happens, if it happens, then as has been said the majority who'll suffer will be innocents, but then its not the first time innocent people have been put through the ringer in the name of war.

Problem is theres no leader, no clear demands, nobody to negotiate with and nothing to negotiate for, just random mindless brutality.
 
Cobra meeting in the morning I suspect and greater commitment to visible armed police around events like this, similar to France's response.
 
I've been worried about this for a while, how much more does western europe take before we stop being the good guys and resort to extreme measures ourselves.

Why do you consider the West the good guys? Notice these sort of attacks (assuming it was an eastern bomber) never happened until the West started bombing the east relentlessly?

How many innocent people killed overseas by the western governments does it take before some mad idiot responds and starts killing innocent westerners :(

Killing anyone should not happen, this world needs to have a word, this endless 'war on terror' is a complete farce, lies and is only resulting in truly horrendous events happening.

Stop the wars, stop the killings, stop terrorist attacks, it's 2017 I can't believe humanity still does this.

Whoever did the Manchester killings tonight, they need bringing to justice, if it was a suicide bomber who is now dead, then go after the people that helped them.
 
Strange that when we bomb them they bomb us.
When I interrogated Saddam, he told me: “You are going to fail. You are going to find that it is not so easy to govern Iraq.” When I told him I was curious why he felt that way, he replied: “You are going to fail in Iraq because you do not know the language, the history, and you do not understand the Arab mind.”

Nixon was a CIA analyst and is the author of Debriefing the President: The Interrogation of Saddam Hussein
 
Bloody well hope not. I will never accept permanent armed forces on the street.
I think with the likelihood of child fatalities a more visible presence of armed officers at large gatherings would be wise. Might not prevent it but they're already there if something does happen. Also depends who is linked with attack but at some stage it's possible it would be regarded as an act of war like it was in France.
 
When I interrogated Saddam, he told me: “You are going to fail. You are going to find that it is not so easy to govern Iraq.” When I told him I was curious why he felt that way, he replied: “You are going to fail in Iraq because you do not know the language, the history, and you do not understand the Arab mind.”

Nixon was a CIA analyst and is the author of Debriefing the President: The Interrogation of Saddam Hussein

That's not really relevant, as Saddam also used Arab nationalism more so than religion.

Also worth wonderding what exactly changed globally that saw a rise in the terrorism threat
 
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