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Merkel dismisses hecklers as polls point to fourth term

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by Evangelion, Sep 20, 2017.

  1. Evangelion

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    Popular centre right conservative German Chancellor Angela Merkel is poised to roar back into power for an unprecedented fourth term, delivering a historic victory for her Christian Democratic Union party:

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    German voters are strongly pro-EU, and Merkel's steady leadership throughout the UK's failing Brexit fiasco has returned a significant boost to her polls. Germany's far right groups have proved incapable of denting her popularity, and their continued marginalisation has demolished last year's predictions of an EU meltdown.
     
  2. Uther

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  3. mid_gen

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    She's going to win comfortably. I am very happy to have her leading the country I live in, compared to the rudder-less train-wreck in charge of my country of birth.

    The AfD may win some seats, but not a big deal. No-one in Germany has forgotten what happened in the past.
     
  4. do_ron_ron

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    |There was a Panorama prog last night on BBC1 which echoed that sentiment. A bunch of far right wing loons bombing refugee hostels were only going to be tried in a lower court in Saxony for assault. The Federal Govt jumped in and they were tried for Terrorism, being Neo-Nazis and other offences. The Federal Govt said they had to come down hard on these groups due to their history. The other point mentioned was the refugee influx was a one year spike.
     
  5. Nasher

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    It's a shame that some of her desicions have also caused a lot of problems for other countries. But despite basically running the EU, she doesn't have to answer to them.
     
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  6. Mercenary Keyboard Warrior

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    Such as?
     
  7. Nasher

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    Such as trying to offload 100,000s of unwanted migrants on other countries? Then threatening them with legal action when quite rightly refuse?
     
  8. Mercenary Keyboard Warrior

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    That wasn't a Merkel solo thing at all, many were in support of that approach.
     
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  10. ron3003

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    Tiny minority etc
     
  11. SPG

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    Based on a lack of opposition and it also a massive coalition, all of my German collegues cant stand her, but its the best they have, but not to worry, Junker will be in charge soon.
     
  12. Mr Badger

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    Absolutely. Once he becomes supreme commander of the European army it's all over.
     
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  14. Mercenary Keyboard Warrior

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    Is he going to invade the UK so that the "EU can take back control" ;)
     
  15. Caracus2k

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    I do hope they will be consistent in punishing the far left communist loons who recently caused so much damage at the g20.... I assume that the 'black bloc' 'anarchist' groups have correctly been labelled as a terrorist organisation for consistency given the history of communist violence and oppression?

    The Nazi's didn't arise in a vacuum in Germany after all in the 1920's to 1930's they were at least in part successful as an opposition to the rising prominence of communism in Germany at the time. Had the communist won in Germany (as they did elsewhere) there is no reason to think that the death toll might not have been in the same order of magnitude as that caused by the nazi's...

    Personally I'm surprised that Merkels still a credible leader in Germany the comments about the migrant issue are at least a tacit admission that she made quite a big mistake which not only caused issues for Germany but for wider sections of the EU
     
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  16. Secret_Window

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    But, this won't fit into Farage's predictions! He said she'd be gone and the right would have an uprising. A bit like the way he predicted France, Netherlands etc.:)
     
  17. Caracus2k

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    Predicting political outcomes makes meteorology look like a credible profession :)
     
  18. do_ron_ron

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    @Nasher was just saying she was in charge of the EU, you are saying the EU is in charge of Germany(or soon will be)
     
  19. do_ron_ron

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    Amazingly the law deals with what the person(s) have done not

    The Nazi's were helped to power by the establishment who feared for their lands and businesses if the Communists took over. Indeed if the 1929 Crash had not happened the Nazis would have still been a minority power in Germany. As to the death toll, it is pure speculation, but there would not have been any war so the death toll would obviously have been less.

    There was an article in a post on this forum a week or so ago about the German election. It stated that immigration was not a main topic in the election nor was Brexit. Mutti Merkel is seen as a proven safe pair of hands and that is why she will be re-elected Chancellor.
     
  20. do_ron_ron

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    You go to 'admire' the man .... he is consistently ..... wrong.