*** Microsoft Windows 11 Thoughts & Discussion Thread ***

[deardevildude]

Id love to upgrade to Windows 11, but Im not one that likes upgrading current OS as it feel like it mess about some stuff (going by my experience going from Windows 7 to 10 anyway) but im too lazy to spend time getting all my programs back and installed

 

[JRS]

Id love to upgrade to Windows 11, but Im not one that likes upgrading current OS as it feel like it mess about some stuff (going by my experience going from Windows 7 to 10 anyway) but im too lazy to spend time getting all my programs back and installed

Aside from the Win11-specific annoyances the upgrade went smoothly here. No reinstalling anything, no having to re-alter default programs.

 

[Mel_P]

Question - I don't want to upgrade to Win 11 yet and only one of the 4 family PCs seem capable of it. Should I upgrade the only one that will upgrade - or leave well alone for now??

My newest on (B550 motherboard bought last year / AMD Ryzen 3600) seems capable of it (UEFI firmware, Secure Boot capable. TPM Trusted Platform Module (TPM) version 2.0. capable) BUT it is not currently running secure boot or with TPM activated.

I have read how to activate these from the BIOS for my one capable PC but am unsure what will happen to my windows 10 installation on this PC if all I do is turn the secure boot and TPM security features (as a test) but DO NOT install Win 11. Will this mess up my windows 10 installation and my current "sharing" across the other family PCs? (As the other 3 pcs never will be Win 11 capable.)

Advice please? Thanks, Mel

 

[thenewoc]

Was any reason ever given why a 1st gen Ryzen was not deemed suitable for W11?

eg 2500U vs 3500U

 

[Bouton Aide]

I just did another PC - legacy mode this time. Worked brilliantly, all drivers installed no problems at all this time. I then converted it to UEFI mode, rebooted enabled UEFI and it just worked.

Fab!

 

[james.miller]

For anyone wondering, I upgraded from 10 to 11 on a ivy bridge just fine using the universal media creation tool. Completely uneventful.

 

[Mel_P]

It's something for a different thread I feel.

Correct - apologies - just read "thenewoc"s sig.

 

[mrk]

Can you still get windows updates if you bypass the installation? I'm sure I read somewhere that you will not receive updates.

You read nowhere that you won't receive them lol. What you did read was the statement from an MS page that you're not "entitled" to updates. Strong use of specific wording. Nowhere does anything say you will not receive updates. They have to say not entitled because you are accepting the bypass method and installing it on something they officially don't class as supported even though it very much is and will continue to be - So to cover their backs and turn anyone who may have an issue at some point away, they will just say "its in the rules, fix it yourself" if you contact MS support one day.

All updates via WU are continuing to happen for everyone.

Either way, Windows Update isn't the only way to install Windows Updates and it's been like this since Windows Update has been a thing.

 

[something daft already!!]

I have finally got it to install.


How to fix error 0x800F0830 – 0x20003

At the start of the install, it asks if you want to check for updates. Disable this. It will then skip installing updates which is what caused it to fail. I hope this helps someone else.

 

[maddness]

You read nowhere that you won't receive them lol. What you did read was the statement from an MS page that you're not "entitled" to updates. Strong use of specific wording. Nowhere does anything say you will not receive updates. They have to say not entitled because you are accepting the bypass method and installing it on something they officially don't class as supported even though it very much is and will continue to be - So to cover their backs and turn anyone who may have an issue at some point away, they will just say "its in the rules, fix it yourself" if you contact MS support one day.

All updates via WU are continuing to happen for everyone.

Either way, Windows Update isn't the only way to install Windows Updates and it's been like this since Windows Update has been a thing.

I didn't have tpm fw enabled either in Windows 10, enabled it booted to Windows 10 fine, ran the check tool and installed

No issues at all

 

[mrk]

I guess what all this has highlighted is the massive amount of confusion MS has created only to go ahead and provide an official bypass after the day of release lol.

 

[watercooledman]

i have it on my laptop not any of my desktops at home or work, it runs ok.
i dont understand the hard on for it and all the hassle it can give on install.

 

[Loxa]

I guess what all this has highlighted is the massive amount of confusion MS has created only to go ahead and provide an official bypass after the day of release lol.

Yeah was definitely a strange move.

 

[Ad_Augendae]

I guess what all this has highlighted is the massive amount of confusion MS has created only to go ahead and provide an official bypass after the day of release lol.

So what is the method ?

One of these Methods

 

[mrk]

Ffs the sponsor segways!

 

[.Lethal]

This has probably been asked but 43 pages is a lot to search through.

I was going to upgrade to Win 11 tonight but Win Update displayed "This PC doesn't currently meet all the system requirements for Windows 11". I've since ran the Health Check app and found out I needed to enable TPM 2.0 which I've done, and updated the BIOS to the latest version also. The problem now is that Win Update still displays the same message despite the Health Check app now giving the all clear and TPM 2.0 being enabled.

I've checked online and found this as it's apparently a known problem, but I'm wondering if anyone here found a way to get around it. Ideally I don't want to download the ISO and do a complete install.

 

[AStaley]

Use the install assistant from MS, https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows11

 

[Grandmaster Fap!]

This has probably been asked but 43 pages is a lot to search through.

I was going to upgrade to Win 11 tonight but Win Update displayed "This PC doesn't currently meet all the system requirements for Windows 11". I've since ran the Health Check app and found out I needed to enable TPM 2.0 which I've done, and updated the BIOS to the latest version also. The problem now is that Win Update still displays the same message despite the Health Check app now giving the all clear and TPM 2.0 being enabled.

I've checked online and found this as it's apparently a known problem, but I'm wondering if anyone here found a way to get around it. Ideally I don't want to download the ISO and do a complete install.

Had the same problem, i downloaded 11 to USB and ran it from desktop to just upgrade, worked fine

 

[bledd]

So two things they've finally fixed..

(this was fixed a few months ago in Windows 10 also)
Now in Notepad, when you press CTRL + backspace, it deletes the whole word instead of inserting an invalid character.


Snipping Tool file extensions are now saved in lowercase instead of uppercase.


I've reported both of these about 20 times to MS since the early Longhorn previews of Vista.



My only gripe so far with Windows 11 is not being able to tick a box or reg entry that says 'always display all taskbar items', now you have to manually set them; annoying.

 

[Rroff]

I guess the updates servers are under load due to Windows 11 or something - got 2 Windows 10 machines where the Windows Update page is just a blank white page with the progress dots constantly going left to right at the top and never doing anything while putting a constantly slight load on the CPU... short of messing about killing services, etc. not much I can do to stop it. This is why forced automatic updates are stupid.

Spoiler

EDIT: On the plus side while monitoring it I discovered one of the machines has a memory leak (probably due to the Intel GPU driver) in DWM yay now to try and solve that issue...