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*** Microsoft Windows 11 Thoughts & Discussion Thread ***

Discussion in 'Windows & Other Software' started by Bouton Aide, 3 Jun 2021.

  1. Purgatory

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    Enthusiast Thoughts on Windows 11 Pre-Release for High-end Compute

     
  2. dante6491

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  3. Bouton Aide

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    wtf - maybe they doing the final changes now.
     
  4. dante6491

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  5. Bouton Aide

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    are they doing it so the servers don't get hammered as much, they must think it's ready for rollout if they doing it now.
     
  6. chroniclard

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    Been on the Beta channel for a few weeks, mostly seems fine.
     
  7. Scougar

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    Deactivated TPM on my board. I always had a feeling it was not for my benefit.
     
  8. Apex

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    I really don't understand the problem.
     
  9. Scougar

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    I remember reading a long time ago how invasive TPM was, and if you read the article's, it basically just MS trying to push their tech again to uniquely identify you etc. It is NOT a security feature, it's just masquerading as one IMO.

    But I'll probably end up caving eventually anyway.
     
  10. Apex

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    Can't they any way? I mean, I login in with my email and password, I give them all my details for my account. They know my ip, literally everything I do on my pc surely. I can't see what extra information they get
     
  11. Servo

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    Does explorer 11 still work. Need for security cameras
     
  12. Ad_Augendae

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    You know I fall into that category of wanting to keep my identity to myself but In the end I just gave in and said **** it just give it away anyway. What option do I have Linux pfff don't make me laff etc blah blah I give up!
     
  13. chroniclard

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    Hmm not something I tried. How come it needs explorer?
     
  14. Apex

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    I understand the desire, but I just don't see what can be done. Don't want the information forced from us, but every gives it all away freely.
     
  15. Rroff

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    There is a lot more to it than that - amongst other things it sets the ground work for the implementation of a system where only signed applications can communicate over the internet with a central authority who decides what an application has to adhere to for it to be signed - which currently isn't possible because there is no way to verify the code running on the end user's system. If someone thinks oh I'll just swap to Linux - OSes without the requirements will simply be unable to do anything online or extremely limited forcing them to get onboard as well.

    Sadly most people will just roll over because they lack the understanding or vision to see the implications.

    Pretty much every security feature touted in 10 can be done just as well if not better without requiring TPM in terms of protecting the end user, it may slightly make things easier in terms of a more standardised approach but isn't worth the trade off vs what TPM functionality as a standard can facilitate against the end user's best interests.
     
  16. marc2003

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    You'll need to use Edge in IE11 compatibility mode. You cannot launch IE11 even though a folder for it does appear to exist. If you run iexplore.exe, it launches Edge.
     
  17. deuse

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    I won't be turning on my TPM for MS.
    MS has gone to far now.
     
  18. Participant

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    Well I'm very happy with Windows 11 so far on my main PC, as it has fixed my windows shifting their position on my displayport screen after sleep.

    I'm now going to install it on my HTPC to see if it fixes the weird HDMI handshaking glitches I get with my soundbar. Basically windows keeps changing itself from 7.1 to stereo after it sleeps or the amp switches off.
     
  19. Rroff

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    On the plus side looks like TPM security isn't standing up too well to attacks - which makes a bit of a mockery of going so hard on adopting it though I guess they'll just require increasingly newer versions which are more robust/not yet exploited.
     
  20. deuse

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    I only use windows for games.
    So I'm hoping more linux games come out on steam..

    I think windows for gamers is becoming like some console software.