* Microsoft Windows 11 Thoughts & Discussion Thread *

Donnie Fisher · 8 Apr 2022 at 22:23

I think its missing some of the depth of previous versions. I know that they want a flatter look, which is fine enough within an app window for menus etc , but it makes for the desktop to be too flat overall. Even in the above desktop image, with no drop shadows to give depth between windows, the whole thing falls flat..

Rroff · 9 Apr 2022 at 02:08

Donnie Fisher said:
I think its missing some of the depth of previous versions. I know that they want a flatter look, which is fine enough within an app window for menus etc , but it makes for the desktop to be too flat overall. Even in the above desktop image, with no drop shadows to give depth between windows, the whole thing falls flat..

I could feel there was *something* missing but now you've mentioned it I can't un-see it

though I always find 10/11 an eyesore though 11 in concept would be the right direction for a modern OS UI.

Deleted member 77746 · 9 Apr 2022 at 20:37

Retro6 said:
I think Windows 10 is ugly and messy. Windows 7 looked much better. Windows 11 looks like a distribution of Linux.

That's strange. Windows 10 looks like Windows 11 but with the icons to the left.

Retro6 · 9 Apr 2022 at 21:09

Bouton Aide said:
That's strange. Windows 10 looks like Windows 11 but with the icons to the left.

The desktop maybe but I'm talking about all of it not just the icons on the desktop

Deleted member 77746 · 9 Apr 2022 at 21:30

Retro6 said:
The desktop maybe but I'm talking about all of it not just the icons on the desktop

Feels like windows 10 to me. I know there's been a lot of changes though behind the scenes.

m@rty · 1 May 2022 at 14:43

I'll be upgrading my computer next week (including new motherboard and CPU) and will be looking to upgrade from Windows 10 Pro to Windows 11 Pro.

I have a Windows 10 Pro digital licence linked to my Microsoft Account which I assume will let me upgrade to Windows 11 Pro free of charge?

Also would it be a more sensible option to:-

1. Do a clean install of Windows 11 off the bat after installing new components;
2. Update Windows 10 to Windows 11 just now prior to installing new components;
3. Install new components first and then update from Windows 10 to 11 via Windows Update?

Rroff · 2 May 2022 at 03:40

Best off doing a clean install of the latest version of the OS using latest installation media - I've not actually tried that path myself yet but as long as the hardware supports the requirements for 11 the media tool should allow you to use the Windows 10 key/hardware activation to install 11. Failing that you can install 10 and it will let you update to 11 pro via the Windows Update page in Settings. There won't be any charge for the upgrade as long as you are upgrading from and to the same tier of Windows i.e. pro to pro.

Any other combination increases the chance of inheriting possible legacy issues over from the older OS install, etc. though it shouldn't really happen.

AStaley · 2 May 2022 at 19:05

@m@rty As @Rroff said go with a clean install, the same as you I had a Win10Pro licence linked to my my MS account, did a clean install and it activated itself no problem at all. When you create your install media download all your drivers, antivirus software etc to the same USB so you have them ready to go once the install completes.

m@rty · 2 May 2022 at 20:19

Rroff said:
Best off doing a clean install of the latest version of the OS using latest installation media - I've not actually tried that path myself yet but as long as the hardware supports the requirements for 11 the media tool should allow you to use the Windows 10 key/hardware activation to install 11. Failing that you can install 10 and it will let you update to 11 pro via the Windows Update page in Settings. There won't be any charge for the upgrade as long as you are upgrading from and to the same tier of Windows i.e. pro to pro.

Any other combination increases the change of inheriting possible legacy issues over from the older OS install, etc. though it shouldn't really happen.

AStaley said:
@m@rty As @Rroff said go with a clean install, the same as you I had a Win10Pro licence linked to my my MS account, did a clean install and it activated itself no problem at all. When you create your install media download all your drivers, antivirus software etc to the same USB so you have them ready to go once the install completes.

Cheers guys, will go with a fresh install

Rroff · 2 May 2022 at 21:38

AStaley said:
When you create your install media download all your drivers, antivirus software etc to the same USB so you have them ready to go once the install completes.

This is good advice - for instance I've occasionally had systems where the networking hardware isn't supported by the default installation drivers meaning the OS can't go online to get them, so having them on the media saves messing about.

Deleted member 77746 · 3 May 2022 at 09:38

I finally moved over to windows 11 on my laptop and with some bios updates and 21H2 it's a lot more stable than ever before.

darael · 3 May 2022 at 16:57

I've installed Windows 11 on a first gen i5 laptop for fun and it doesn't run too bad. It doesn't have TPM or Secure Boot, so it will be interesting to see how the 22H2 update is handled.

Phil2008 · 4 May 2022 at 02:18

darael said:
I've installed Windows 11 on a first gen i5 laptop for fun and it doesn't run too bad. It doesn't have TPM or Secure Boot, so it will be interesting to see how the 22H2 update is handled.

Well I have disabled the TPM and SecureBoot check in mine because I can't use a bootmenu with SecureBoot enabled, so I hope I dont run into any problems with updates in the future either :eek:

hyperseven · 4 May 2022 at 04:00

found out how to disable the 'more items' on right-click explorer menu via regedit, much better experience and less clicks to do what I want.

Rroff · 4 May 2022 at 04:07

Amusing that several recent presentations, streams, etc. people have spotted MS employees running Windows 11 on hardware which is unsupported by Windows 11 according to the MS requirements and/or doesn't have TPM support........ I bet many of them don't have to put up with the **** which is updates either the way most consumers do......

Phil2008 · 5 May 2022 at 09:46

All the shortcuts has disapearsd from windows tools in the control panel accept for a new one called "Power Automate" after doing window updates?

Deleted member 77746 · 5 May 2022 at 10:03

Rroff said:
Amusing that several recent presentations, streams, etc. people have spotted MS employees running Windows 11 on hardware which is unsupported by Windows 11 according to the MS requirements and/or doesn't have TPM support........ I bet many of them don't have to put up with the **** which is updates either the way most consumers do......

Maybe they are testing?

darael · 5 May 2022 at 17:47

Phil2008 said:
All the shortcuts has disapearsd from windows tools in the control panel accept for a new one called "Power Automate" after doing window updates?

Which update caused this? According to Windows Update, my Windows 11 laptop has all available and optional updates installed and Control Panel seems to work for me.

Phil2008 · 6 May 2022 at 01:14

darael said:
Which update caused this? According to Windows Update, my Windows 11 laptop has all available and optional updates installed and Control Panel seems to work for me.

I have no idea which update made them disappear, but they are still in the start menu, but not in Control Panel>Windows Tools... Where do you get System and Security from as I dont have that in my control panel?

darael · 6 May 2022 at 17:46

Phil2008 said:
I have no idea which update made them disappear, but they are still in the start menu, but not in Control Panel>Windows Tools... Where do you get System and Security from as I dont have that in my control panel?

For me, it's just there:

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