Mk2 Ford KA how to tell if it has start-stop

Orionaut said:
Start-Stop is crap. replacing the batteries every couple of years will cost far more than any conceivable fuel saving!
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What makes you think you’d need to replace the battery every few years? Not had a start stop equipped car that’s shown signs of battery failure yet...

The fuel savings are minimal regardless though. It’s the emissions that are more positively affected.
 
If it has stop start it will have an A in a circle on the dash lights and a button to turn it off on the centre console too, same A in a circle.
 
paradigm said:
What makes you think you’d need to replace the battery every few years? Not had a start stop equipped car that’s shown signs of battery failure yet...

The fuel savings are minimal regardless though. It’s the emissions that are more positively affected.
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You get a different perspective if you are in the motor business.

I am retiring now, after 40 years or so, because (Several reasons) but over the last 5 years, replacing crapped out batteries on stop-start cars has been the majority of my battery replacements and "Unexpected" break down business.

I would not want one, and if I had a car with this option, I would want to find a way of disabling it permanently!
 
Just got my first motor with this Start-Stop a couple of weeks ago, a '15 Focus Titanium X (1L Ecoboost), and for the first week or so it freaked me the hell out every damn time.
 
Nasher said:
Not so much that, but it supposedly it increases wear and shortens the life of the engine in the (very) long-term.
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Yes the systems increase wear however all that increase is accounted for in the design and build of the engine, and its components.

Therefore where a standard csr is designed for approx 50,000 start ups in its life, a stop/start equipped car has components (such as main crankshaft bearings, starter motors, ring gear etc) designed and built to last in excess of 500,000 cycles.

So the engines will last just as long if not longer, in some cases, than standard engines.
 
Nasher said:
This guy has a strong opinion on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k159M8QhCIE&feature=youtu.be :D
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To quote his favourite phrase

That video is full of mountains of "male cow droppings"

There is also mountains of scientific evidence out there that the systems do save appreciable amounts of fuel, up to 15%+ in some circumstances, and they add zero extra wear and tear to anything apart from parts designed to accommodate the extra wear and tear.

The only real downside is the extra cost of the batteries on some systems, even then, they should only need replacing as often as any ordinary battery, but will cost more as they are designed and built rather differently to supply the amounts of current needed so much more often.

And to be fair, many of the systems do not need the special batteries, some systems work perfectly well with normal car batteries.
 
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