MODZERO JUICE - NFC SYSTEMS S4 MINI #80 (FINISHED 13.12.17)

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UPDATE 0

I've been looking forward to this one for a while now. Unlike some of my previous builds this one should be pretty much stress free (fingers crossed). It's not a competition entry with a deadline, it's not a buddy build, nor a personal rig upgrade leaving me living off a test bench until complete. This one is a goody, a new LAN rig, in a chassis I'm super excited to build in. With no end date *cough* i60 LAN in April *cough*, so come along and enjoy the journey.

This is a sponsored project, for which I'm hugely grateful! Massive thanks go out to NFC Systems for their support, E22 for once again showing their faith in my work and indeed Gigabyte for taking the risk and hooking me up. :thumb:

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SPECS:
  • INTEL CORE i5 - 6600K CPU
  • HYPERX FURY DDR4 2400MHZ 16GB (2X8GB) RAM
  • GIGABYTE GA-Z170N GAMING 5 MOBO
  • GIGABYTE GTX 1060 ITX OC 6G GPU
  • SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2-2280 250GB NVMe SSD
  • HDPLEX Hi-Fi 250W DC-ATX PSU
  • NOCTUA NH-L9i COOLER
  • 2X SCYTHE KAZE JYUNI SLIM 2000RPM
  • NFC SYSTEMS S4 MINI CUSTOM CHASSIS

After my beloved Parvum Veer (MODZERO FOUR) took a savage thieving (of it's mod cubes) in order to complete my Thermaltake UK modders trophy 2016 entry I was left without my LAN buddy. That was back in late April. I'm pretty sure I'd seen the NFC PURIEL build someplace and went in search of more information. That took me to YouTube and there I met the S4 Mini.

Once MODZERO OCTO was finished I kept coming back to that S4 Mini I'd seen. At that time the GTX970 was about as powerful a GPU you could fit in the little monster (although couple folks over on the SFF forums had got the AMD Fury Nano running pretty stable too..) but the 10 series was coming soon and with it I was sure one of the board partners would put out a great ITX card.

I'd contacted Josh at NFC about sending me the S4 Mini with the panels bare. At the time, very day I was driving past a BMW garage and had found a liking for some of their blues. A M4 in ESTORIL BLUE to be exact. The more I saw of it the more I liked it. From the chromed trim accents to the deep red of the rear light housing, I liked how the black of the grill contrasts against the blue metallic paint work. The actual paint work was done by B-Negative and he nailed it! Thanks buddy!I left the panels to truly harden then went about giving it a cut and polish. I had the color I wanted, so that was it, I'd base my S4 Mini around the aspects of the BMW M4 I liked.

THE NFC SYSTEMS S4 MINI

Many may already be aware of this chassis or at least Josh and his years of great work in the modding community, for those that aren't, this is the NFC S4 Mini. A 4.3l air cooled ITX chassis designed by Josh, manufactured in small batches and sold direct from his NFC SYSTEMS website. You can find out a lot more about it over on his page but for now I'll just show a couple shots of mine.

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This way up?

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Or this way?

I think I'm leaning toward the second, there are vents under the Alu wrap-around and as we know, heat rises. With the GPU being that end of the case, I think I may see some performance gains in this rotation.

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You can just about make out the vents under the Alu panel.

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As the build progresses I'll drive inside the chassis and show some of that, I may take a second pass at the cut and polish I think there are areas for improvement.

Outside of the custom paint work and sleeved cables I plan to make some modifications to how both the CPU & GPU are cooled and try my hand with some other materials to help make some of the internals really pop.

Thanks for check it out, hope you stick around and enjoy the log.

J.
 
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I absolutely love these cases, build is off to a great start :D

Following as always fella <3

That looks fantastic! :D

Cheers guys,

Took a little break over Christmas but will have an update in the coming days. I've picked up my power adapter now, thanks to the great guys over at Kustom PCs and my better half (made for a funny gift, being so appreciative of a laptop power brick...).

Still waiting on Samsung to restock their Amazon store (my 960EVO is on back order) then I'll get cracking with some testing. I've a few fan configs I wanna try out on the CPU and a couple options for the GPU.

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UPDATE 1.0

Well, now Christmas and New Years is out the way things are coming together nicely. Pre-Christmas I was still two key components shy of a POST. The M2 drive and a power adapter. I'll share my tale of the 960 EVO another time, as for the power brick, well that made for quite the odd Christmas morning gift unwrap. Turned out, my other half had being sending cheeky emails to KustomPCs. Knowing what I needed, they sent the power adapter inside a Corsair VS450 box. She then wraps the VS PSU box and come Christmas morning I fain adulation as she watches me remove the wrapping paper with an expression of 'erm...this isn't right', just as I then get over excited at the sight of the Dell ADP-330AB B Power Adapter inside.. She* is a keeper. ;) I'd no idea she'd hooked that up, much impressed.
*the power adapter

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I've had the Gigabyte goodies out ready for a box bench test. The plan being, I'll test all hardware stock (as we all do... :rolleyes:) outside the chassis first. Then run some stress benches with all the hardware test fitted in the S4 Mini before I start working on the cables. I'm running a 95W CPU and a GTX1060 + M2 SSD off a 250W PSU, I wanna be certain I'm not pushing my luck.

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It's a cracking little board, logical placement for SATA (yeah Impact... whats that all about!) and the 8PIN/24PIN are both where they should be.. surprising how many ITX boards are still getting this wrong.

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GIGABYTE GEFORCE GTX1060 ITX OC 6G - When they teased this and it's big brother the 1070 ITX OC a few months back I got really excited. I'd already been eyeing up the S4 Mini but none of the GPU offering at the time (under 8") were doing it for me.. back then it was a toss up between the Asus GTX970 ITX or AMD FURY NANO. Having just moved from the 980 to the 1070, the thought of buying a 970 gave me no pleasure. I'd have loved a FURY NANO but that 175 TDP wouldn't have left me much headroom.

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It's a chunky little monster with a beefy heatsink. It absolutely fills the S4 mini GPU space but seeing as the 1060 PCB is a little less tall then the its big 1070 brother I'm hoping I'll be able to mount the power socket without any further mods.

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I'm using the Noctua NH-L9i, I may or may not swap out the fan.. with such a small chassis, cooling is key. But I'm a sucker for aesthetics. Don't get me wrong, I like the signature Noctua fan color, however I prefer the nickel heatsink under it. Same with the GPU, so I'll at least try swapping out both 92mm fans for these Sythe 12mm 2000RPM 120mm beauts.

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The S4 Mini has those two 120mm mounting points, one over the CPU, with the other above the GPU. I'll run a suite of benches with the stock cooling options then repeat with the slims. See how we get on.

I'm working on a custom backplate for the 1060 with a matching plate for the chipset. Exploring a few different approaches with that. Once I have the designs I'll see what you guys think.

J.
 
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UPDATE 2.0

Over the last few days things have moved along nicely. These are simple phone shots and for some silly reason when resizing (I thought they looked cool at the time), I made them B&W. Won't be going that again..

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I'm really enjoying the S4 Mini chassis, it's the first independently produced small production run case I've bought. Josh over at NFC, clearly loves what he's doing. His enthusiasm comes through in everything. Already a world class modder and scratch builder (just check these out) he's also producing great content for his YouTube channel with the S4 Mini chassis clearly being a passion project for him. This is how the chassis looked when It turned up at my door. Before I sen it south to the mighty B NEG and his spray-gun of justice... (Not that you can really tell.. cos I made the bloody images B&W!! haha).

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I loaded up all the hardware and got windows installed onto the M2 drive.. I was expecting that to be a headache but everything worked as it should, happy days! (first time using M2) As I'm replacing all the cables for the HDPLEX with custom made 18AWG wire based replacements I didn't bother installing the PSU and ran it as seen above.

The HDPLEX really is a great bit of kit! years of using overly power equipped PSUs left me worried a 250W DC-ATX PSU wouldn't get the job done. On a side note they've just replaced this a 300W model (yeah... :wallbash:) with a different layout for the connections ( better suited for the S4 Mini). However this one is going a great job, If I were to swap out the 1060 for say the 1070 then maybe I'll look at buying the 300W.

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My original intention had been to sleeve all the cables, but after I'd test fit the PSU.. and it left me with this...

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I quickly became skeptical. I'd read over on the SFF forums users pushing the HDPLEX had benefited from the larger gauge wire (stock being something like 19AWG). So that's the current plan. It's gonna be tight with just the larger diameter wire let alone trying to sleeve 24 cables in 4mm Teleios. I'll look at sleeving the accents.. fan wires, switch, the power connector cables. Maybe I'll sleeve a couple from the GPU/CPU, see if it looks good.

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I have a couple Parvum switches so thought I had this covered... turned out the S4 MINI uses a 16mm switch, oops. Not to worry, KUSTOM PC to the rescue. Again, room is super tight with the 24PIN mobo connection sitting right up in-front of the switch.

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This is the first project since moving house.. I've turned my office into a right state trying to find all my 'bits and bobs'. I'd convinced myself I had a stash of terminals, but could I find them... no. I'd convinced myself I had extra 22AWG fan wire, but could I find it... no. Luckily E22 hooked me up with a rapid resupply, thanks guys.

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With everything loaded up stock the system pulled just shy of 245W from the wall. looping the Unigine Valley Benchmark the Noctua NH-L9i kept my 95W i5 6600K under 40'c and silent whilst the stock cooler on the Gigabyte GTX1060 ITX OC maxed out at 62'c with the fan at 40%. Granted it's winter, I live in North Wales (it's cold) and without the HDPLEX fitted in place both components see better airflow. I was surprised all the same. Even so, I wanted to try removing the 92mm fan/shroud on the GPU and mounting a 120/12mm fan over the GPU instead.

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I think that looks ace! a pair of thick copper heat pipes, with the heat sink making contact on the RAM and VRMs (nice work Gigabyte).

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With the slim 120mm Scythe fan in place, the GPU fit perfectly (lucky!). I'm a huge fan of SpeedFan I've used it for years, long before PWM became the norm and manufacturers included half decent fan control software with their motherboards. So the plan was simple enough. Install SpeedFan, control the RPM of the 3PIN chassis fan based on the GPU temp. Only for some unknown reason SpeedFan was unable to see fans (thought it did detect the correct controller). A quick search found others with Gigabyte Z170 based boards experiencing the same. When it's all done, I'll come back to it.. I'm sure I'll find a fix. For now I used another little app to do the same (arhh, I can't remember what is was called).

I ran the same loop of Valley and found the performance to be around the same. With one large difference. Whilst both solutions kept the GPU around 60'c, it took the Scythe running at 60% to pull it off. A touch too loud for my liking.

The Gigabyte Z170N Gaming 5 only has two fan headers too, and I'd intended to make use of some Dazmod ridged LED strips powered from a fan header (makes for simple dimming control). By using the chassis fan, I wont be able to do that.

That's it for now. Thanks for reading. What do you think, stick with the stock cooler or tweak the slim RPMs to reduce the noise and roll with it?

J.
 
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i have that board. i also tried speedfan and apparently it is only supported by most boards and this isnt one of them. looked up some tutorials on it first aswell :(
 
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You said "stock". bad boy :p

Loving this, and after my sheet metal disasters today it's good to see we're all having some trials and tribulations!

Haha, 'stock' for now.. I'd need to do something about the orange go faster stripes. :cool: Sheet metal can be a pain in the a**! I often wish I can better tools, think I'd try my hand at so much more. It's all a part of the process thou.. fun fun fun and all that. :p

i have that board. i also tried speedfan and apparently it is only supported by most boards and this isnt one of them. looked up some tutorials on it first aswell :(

Annoying huh.. The other app is doing the trick. If I can't get SpeedFan to see them correctly I'll have to buy this software I'm using.

Love this!

THANKS! :D

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With the larger fan you probably have a larger dead zone under the hub. That and with the overlap and lack of shroud, the rest of the airflow probably leaks round the heatsink rather than through it. The colour of the shroud you can always do something about (paint, vinyl, sandpaper even) but the loudness of the fan you can only improve by sacrificing performance and you also lose headroom you may need once the PSU is in and the lid on. Given that it sounds like you also lose a mobo fan header to run this fan, I'd stay with the stock and redecorate it to your colour scheme - much as the bare heatsink looks nice in an industrial way.
 
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Coming together nicely. Shame the Scythe is too loud, I would just go back the stock GPU fan.

I also have the same Speed fan issue with my Gigabyte Z170MX Gaming 5, which other piece of software are you using and is it any good?
 
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Can you resize the images please as per FAQ :)

Whilst I appreciate, there was a single image I'd missed and mistakenly uploaded at 4000+ width. This is the only forum that doesn't auto-resize. My images are 1550x granted your FAQ (however old is may or may not be) asks all images be 1280x (a reasonable request) it pains me the extra 270 pixels warranted all my images be changed for links.

With the larger fan you probably have a larger dead zone under the hub. That and with the overlap and lack of shroud, the rest of the airflow probably leaks round the heatsink rather than through it. The colour of the shroud you can always do something about (paint, vinyl, sandpaper even) but the loudness of the fan you can only improve by sacrificing performance and you also lose headroom you may need once the PSU is in and the lid on. Given that it sounds like you also lose a mobo fan header to run this fan, I'd stay with the stock and redecorate it to your colour scheme - much as the bare heatsink looks nice in an industrial way.

Absolutely agree chap, the bearing is at least 3-4x larger then the 92mm fan on the stock cooler. I'm gonna put the stock back on (hope the GPU will fit) and vinyl the orange in white or blue.. or both. I'll see if I can sweet talk Daaaaveee into pulling out the old vinyl plotter for me once again..

Coming together nicely. Shame the Scythe is too loud, I would just go back the stock GPU fan.

I also have the same Speed fan issue with my Gigabyte Z170MX Gaming 5, which other piece of software are you using and is it any good?

Any chance you'll do me a couple more vinyl cuts buddy? ArgusMonitor, it's a clunky UI but it works! it's not free either which sucks... 30 day full trail deal.

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Any chance you'll do me a couple more vinyl cuts buddy? ArgusMonitor, it's a clunky UI but it works! it's not free either which sucks... 30 day full trail deal.

J.

I think there may be a case of mistaken identity here?! I have not done any vinyl for you. Maybe its Davedree you're looking for, similar username?

Thanks for the software name though, I'll check it out :)
 
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