Moral dilemma

Swordfish · 19 Dec 2010 at 22:14

jackthezipper said:
Why not offer to do a night for free or at a low cost so the guy can see what the extra £100 actually gets him.

I mean, if it's the exact same then obviously he's going to go with the guy thats cheaper. However, if your dad is a better entertainer, it may get him more customers buying more drink and more than pay the £100 difference.

I'd go with this myself.

doofer · 19 Dec 2010 at 22:24

I'd make a right old song and dance about it, that guy should face the music.

robfosters · 19 Dec 2010 at 22:31

Greenlizard0 said:
Strikes me as slightly bitter really.

Your story also doesn't make sense on a legal point of view. "If other mugs want to go out and and spend £3k plus on a set, thats up to them, but i'm not" - what does that mean exactly? Are kareoke runners only allowed to use a particular set of cds or something? A "set" - does that mean equipment or are you sure he meant music only? How do you also know he doesn't own the music already - but has ripped and organised it for his convenience? Hence his stuff is on cd-rs.

Yes, I am bitter. I make no bones about that.

A set is a set of karaoke discs. Each one costs £10 and my dad has 600. The word set comes from the fact that different manufacturers issue complete sets like discs 1-300.

Even if he owns the music, you cannot copy discs to use commercially. Karaoke discs are like tools. Say you're a carpenter and you break a chisel, you have to replace it with another chisel. The same goes with discs. If it breaks, you have to replace it with another original. You cannot back up unless you are backing up to hard drive to use a computer system. Then you need a digital DJ licence.

I think I may go with the idea of offering it to the landlord cheaper for one night.

Truth be told, as strange as it may seem, I hate karaoke. Cant bear to listen to tuneless drunks bellow out tuneless songs all night. But it's a living for the old man.

Van Hellseek · 19 Dec 2010 at 22:32

How is this a moral dilema?

Greenlizard0 · 19 Dec 2010 at 22:34

Ah I see.

And I agree, kareoke is rubbish.*

*this has nothing whatsoever with the fact I'm utter **** at singing.

Nitefly · 19 Dec 2010 at 22:38

If you are going to 'grass him up', do have the decency to inform him that what he is doing is wrong and that you are intending to tell the relevant authorities.

robfosters · 19 Dec 2010 at 22:41

Nitefly said:
If you are going to 'grass him up', do have the decency to inform him that what he is doing is wrong and that you are intending to tell the relevant authorities.

He knows fully well what he is doing is wrong.

Nitefly · 19 Dec 2010 at 22:45

robfosters said:
He knows fully well what he is doing is wrong.

But if he decides to stop doing it in light of your conversation with him then there is no reason for him to be punished by the state, and you will get what you want.

Grassing him up before warning him is just being spiteful imo.

robfosters · 19 Dec 2010 at 22:49

Nitefly said:
Grassing him up before warning him is just being spiteful imo.

Hence why it's a moral dilemma for me. I'm not a spiteful person.

Nitefly · 19 Dec 2010 at 22:50

robfosters said:
Hence why it's a moral dilemma for me. I'm not a spiteful person.

Then why don't you speak to him? You aren't being spiteful if you have a conversation with him as I suggested.

robfosters · 19 Dec 2010 at 22:58

Nitefly said:
Then why don't you speak to him? You aren't being spiteful if you have a conversation with him as I suggested.

I'll think about. Probably end up with a black eye, but it may work,