MOT tomorrow, car is dirty :-\

roger_37 · 7 Dec 2010 at 20:33

teaboy5 said:
The OP is from NI, were you have to under the car washed before the MOT, or they will refuse to do if its really meaning it fails.

I really do despair when people don't know what they are talking about.

+1

Von Smallhausen · 7 Dec 2010 at 20:34

ZG002 said:
I'm sure the tester will look at your dirty car and then look outside and think.. nah it's passed, then walk back over to the heater

Hope so but I doubt it.

It's a mate who does the testing as well.

Slogan · 7 Dec 2010 at 20:34

Iceman said:
Refusing is different to a fail. But i didnt look at where he was from. Is the test any different in NI?

Quite different. As I understand it Britain allows independent mechanics to assess the car for MOT - doing the appropriate work to get it to 'road worthy' status. That testing is 'randomly' monitored by a government body. Correct me if I'm wrong on that.

In NI, independent mechanics carry out work and the car is then tested in a government run facility - the MOT centre. As the work on the car is completely unrelated to the person testing it - they're not overly concerned about getting their fingers dirty to see if a brake pipe is clean, for example.

As for a car 'having' to be washed underneath or otherwise for an NI MOT, that's not true.

[TW]Fox · 7 Dec 2010 at 20:38

Gaygle said:
LOL

Make sure you dust the interior as well. I also heard that if you have a crease in your leather it's an insta-fail.

probedb said:
How would you expect the underside of your car NOT to be dirty?

thepeteh said:
Sometimes I really do despair...
OP - Your car will not fail its MOT for being dirty.

MrLOL said:
got any actual source for this ??

I've found lots of internet heresay, but no actual proof ?

Sigh. Totally with teaboy on this. Why post opinions and take the **** about something its blatantly obvious you know nothing about? You just make yourself look stupid.

Your vehicle should be road worthy with all the equipment working correctly, therefore it is advisable to have your vehicle checked by a mechanic before you bring it for a test. You must also ensure that the exterior/interior and underparts of the vehicle are clean, otherwise the examiner may refuse to test it.

http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/index/in...vehicle/mot/how-do-i-prepare-for-the-test.htm

Bet you all feel daft now, eh?

Refusal might be technically different to a fail but it amounts to the same thing - you don't leave the test centre with a valid MOT!

Fr0dders · 7 Dec 2010 at 20:40

[TW]Fox;17953150 said:
Bet you all feel daft now, eh?

no, because i asked for a source because i couldn't find one.

I now have one

[TW]Fox · 7 Dec 2010 at 20:41

Yea I didnt mean you

rypt · 7 Dec 2010 at 20:49

[TW]Fox;17953150 said:
Bet you all feel daft now, eh?

No because most of us are not in NI

[TW]Fox · 7 Dec 2010 at 20:53

rypt said:
No because most of us are not in NI

But the OP is, and his question relates to NI. He cares not what the MOT policy in England is, as he is not MOT testing a car in England.

However, you can also fail an MOT or have an MOT test refused for having a dirty car in this country, as well. Listed amongst the reasons for refusing an English MOT test is:

b. the vehicle or any part or equipment on the vehicle is so dirty that examination is unreasonably difficult:

There are also fail points where things like lights etc etc are so dirty that operation is impaired.

So, my point stands. LOL @ all the people who took the mick at the idea you might fail an MOT or have a test refused for having a dirty car.

rypt · 7 Dec 2010 at 20:55

He never showed us how dirty it is

thepeteh · 7 Dec 2010 at 20:56

[TW]Fox;17953150 said:
Bet you all feel daft now, eh?

Not really.
As it happens, the way I worded my post gives me a get out clause anyway! So... it won't FAIL for being dirty but it just might be refused test.

Nevertheless, I didn't use Google or pull out the rulebooks before I made my post. It was a reasonable assumption I made and fair enough - It seems I may have been proven wrong. :cool:

Iceman · 7 Dec 2010 at 20:59

[TW]Fox;17953271 said:
There are also fail points where things like lights etc etc are so dirty that operation is impaired.
.

Not going to argue but if it was that dirty it would get noticed on the pre checks and would not make it into the mot bay lol.

Gaygle · 7 Dec 2010 at 21:00

[TW]Fox;17953271 said:
However, you can also fail an MOT or have an MOT test refused for having a dirty car in this country, as well. Listed amongst the reasons for refusing an English MOT test is:

"the vehicle or any part or equipment on the vehicle is so dirty that examination is unreasonably difficult"

"The vehicle is so dirty that examination is unreasonably difficult"

I'm assuming that this means the car is absolutely caked in mud and the test cannot be undertaken.

A) this is different to failing an MOT
B) the underside of a car with a bit of road dirt and salt is NOT "so dirty that the examination is unreasonably difficult".

Gaygle · 7 Dec 2010 at 21:03

Also, how clean does the car need to be in N.I.? I assume it's the same as England in that by "clean" they mean "not so dirty that the test cannot go ahead.

I.e. they'd refuse to do it if there was mud all over, but not if you had some crumbs on the floor.

Lakeland · 7 Dec 2010 at 21:04

My motorbike tyre fitter always has a hissy fit cause I never clean the crap off my wheels

Lopéz · 7 Dec 2010 at 21:05

I worked in an MOT testing station for 5 years on and off and we refused to test quite a few vehicles that were caked in mud underneath.

Gaygle · 7 Dec 2010 at 21:07

Lopéz said:
I worked in an MOT testing station for 5 years on and off and we refused to test quite a few vehicles that were caked in mud underneath.

Did you refuse any for having a bit of road grime on or some crumbs on the carpet?

Iceman · 7 Dec 2010 at 21:07

Lopéz said:
I worked in an MOT testing station for 5 years on and off and we refused to test quite a few vehicles that were caked in mud underneath.

Nothing worse than having to remove half a field before you can see what you want lol.

Von Smallhausen · 7 Dec 2010 at 21:09

Lopéz said:
I worked in an MOT testing station for 5 years on and off and we refused to test quite a few vehicles that were caked in mud underneath.

I take it that none of the car owners refused were minted MILFS with splendid globes ?

Lopéz · 7 Dec 2010 at 21:09

Gaygle said:
Did you refuse any for having a bit of road grime on or some crumbs on the carpet?

No. But with that said, we were not in NI so it isn't hugely relevant to the OP.

Gaygle · 7 Dec 2010 at 21:13

Lopéz said:
No. But with that said, we were not in NI so it isn't hugely relevant to the OP.

Perhaps, but i assume that the N.I. rules are as reasonable as ours, hence i can understand them refusing to do a test if it has half a field, but not if it has some dirt on it?

Or are the Irish very keen on cleanliness and insist on every component to be gleaming?