Motorsport Off Topic Thread

[Deleted member 651465]

Gasly has a clash with whatever other series he's racing in this year after the next two F1 races, so the Torpedo is likely back in for Austin.

Can't be having him miss out on the best chance for a T1 missile strike?

 

[MagicBoy]

It's a shame it's not upscaled to 720p too. I know upscaling is generally rubbish, but it would help with Youtube, as Youtube don't have anything between 720p and 480p, which is a much bigger gap that is seems in numbers.

Can't your PC do the upscaling?

 

[Shimmy]

Absolutely scandalous that the FIA are allowing Budowski to transfer to a team without minimum 1 year gardening leave.
He has unparalleled access to all teams design secrets for not only this year, but also potentially 2018.

Very shrewd move from Renault. https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-teams-angry-over-budkowski-team-switch-958936/

 

[MooMoo444]

Yeah that is proper dodgy, but massive props for Renault for having the idea. I bet he'll be able to give them some solid knowledge.

 

[The_Abyss]

Well, it is one way of levelling the playing field!

 

[lunarwolf]

Absolutely scandalous that the FIA are allowing Budowski to transfer to a team without minimum 1 year gardening leave.
He has unparalleled access to all teams design secrets for not only this year, but also potentially 2018.

Very shrewd move from Renault. https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-teams-angry-over-budkowski-team-switch-958936/

Tbh, what would a gardening leave really stop? It's not like he wouldnt be able to talk to Renault engineers during his gardening leave.

Furthermore, F1 is a small world where people are poached all the time. Did Paddy Lowe do a 1 or 2 year gardening leave before moving from Mercedes to Williams? How is this move any different? The list is long

All teams in F1 copy what is succesfull with other teams, just like Red Bull did by copying the Ferrari side pods. the real trick is to be first and stay ahead in the development race. Anyway the 2018 car/engine development started a while back, so we are only likely to see Budowski info benefit the 2019 car, by which time things will have evolved.

In short, it's a lot of hysteria about something that basically happens all the time. In fact we have seen a lot worse in the past ie Ferrari/McLaren spygate a few years back, which honestly didnt result in very much in terms of punishment.

At the end of the day if we have a more level playing field, I dont think we have much to complain about as spectators. In fact I look forward to see some competitive and more exciting racing instead of the predictable and usual 2 horse race we are so bored with

My 2 cents

 

[Shimmy]

The comparisons aren't similar at all imo. Those contracts are made by the teams, if they only state a short amount of gardening leave, then they can only shoot themselves in the foot when their technical staff are poached.

The FIA should absolutely have a minimum of 1 year gardening leave or non-compete clause for someone in Budowski's position. Otherwise it's abusing a position of power and trust.
Not only 1 team's secrets are shared, but the entire grid.
It's 6 months until the start of next season, F1 teams can do an awful lot in that amount of time. McLaren only just agreed to use Renault engines next year..

 

[lunarwolf]

The comparisons aren't similar at all imo. Those contracts are made by the teams, if they only state a short amount of gardening leave, then they can only shoot themselves in the foot when their technical staff are poached.

The FIA should absolutely have a minimum of 1 year gardening leave or non-compete clause for someone in Budowski's position. Otherwise it's abusing a position of power and trust.
Not only 1 team's secrets are shared, but the entire grid.
It's 6 months until the start of next season, F1 teams can do an awful lot in that amount of time. McLaren only just agreed to use Renault engines next year..

Fyi. Switzerland, where Budowski is based, only allows a max of 3 months gardening leave. Nothing the FIA can do to change Swiss contract laws

Furthermore, the most important info is really what Mercedes are doing right, does Renault really care what Williams or Honda are doing? On top of that Renault pretty much know what RBR and TR are doing in real time since they supply the engines.

Lastly a gardening leave is symbolic. It's not like Budowski cant pick up the phone and relay the info. Or should should he be marooned on a deserted island during his gardening leave?

At the end of the day it was a smart play by Renault. Afterall Mercedes, RBR and Ferrari could have hired him, they just didnt think about it first

 

[Shimmy]

I'm only arguing that the FIA should have the foresight not to allow this situation to occur.

Yes, shrewd by Renault.

 

[lunarwolf]

lol Spiceboy whining yet again

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/...jor-issue-with-fia-over-budkowski-959027/?s=1

 

[UTmaniac]

htts://www.autosport.com/f1/news/132106/no-finishers-in-malaysian-gp-f4-support-race

How very bizarre!

 

[this_is_gav]

Yay, Muzza is at Brands and looking fantastic!

 

[ThestigGT999]

Formula E drivers angry over "dangerous" Valencia chicane

that chicane looks so bad

 

[deuse]

"Formula One and ESPN have agreed to a multi-year linear and digital partnership to broadcast every race live in the U.S. from the start of the 2018 season."

http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/20912083/espn-secures-us-formula-one-rights-2018

I wonder if BT will be showing F1?

 

[MissChief]

"Formula One and ESPN have agreed to a multi-year linear and digital partnership to broadcast every race live in the U.S. from the start of the 2018 season."

http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/20912083/espn-secures-us-formula-one-rights-2018

I wonder if BT will be showing F1?

No, because they licence the ESPN name from Disney and Sky have a sole UK broadcaster deal from 2019 onwards, although I suspect Liberty might he looking for an agreement for a highlights deal on terrestrial at least.

 

[The_Abyss]

Pity, that’s the end for Will Buxton then.

 

[GravyMonster]

Hopefully he moves too as he's very good. It's a shame none of the UK broadcasters got him in a few years ago. Check out his 'Paddock pass' series on Youtube. It's basically Ted's Notebook, but without being a walking bucket of cringe.

 

[this_is_gav]

Ted's Notebook used to be really good and quite informative, but over the last couple of years it's sloped gracelessly into the horror show it is now.

Buxton is as good at his general media duties as he is bad when he's covering a potential big story; he loves an exaggeration. He's OK though.

I don't know where all the great motorsport journalists have gone to be honest. Social media should have made it easier for aspiring journalists to come to the fore, yet the opposite seems true at the moment with the established mediocrity remaining prevalent; somehow James Allen, a man most infamous for emasculating all commentaries in one fell swoop (Hungary 2006), seems to still be regarded as one of the most renowned British F1 journalists. And I can't believe that Simon Lazenby, Johnny Herbert and Eddie Jordan are still on our TVs.

Kravitz, once decent, should have been replaced by someone with far more technical knowledge years back - even in the BBC days Gary Anderson, rubbish in front of a camera, was better at the technical stuff than Kravitz is now. Sky have a dedicated channel that should have a wealth of information and be a platform for educating young engineers from people like Kravitz, yet he's bumbling along talking about WAGs and celebrities half of the time and the other half uttering what we already know. Even people like Scarbs, who is at least enthusiastic about the technical side of the sport, would be a massive improvement.

It's only going to get worse once F1 disappears from FTA and Sky's effort drops from little to nothing.

 

[Merlin5]

Some F1 wtf moments here including Nelson Piquet in a punch up and an uncensored comment from Kimi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJiCG2mBrY0

 

[Glanza]