Motorsport Off Topic Thread

[steve45]

Keep the mounting points and strength requirements the same but let the teams develop their own. Then we might see some unique designs that are more integrated into the car design.

I like this idea, as long as they can prove it provides the same or better protection give them free rein to make it better.

 

[The_Abyss]

I'm just not sure that's workable. The teams would need to stump up for more crash testing, in addition to the monocoque, and anything that adds more cost is going to hand an advantage to the bigger teams 99.9% of the time.

 

[Mr Jack]

Hard to argue that one.

It's not that hard really. If you look at the shots, the motion of the car wouldn't have brought the tyre into contact with the drivers head anyway. I think we're going to see a lot of this: something will hit the halo and everyone will go on about how the Halo is saving lives when it's not clear anything would have hit the driver anyway. Hitting the Halo does not mean it saved the driver.

 

[JHeaton]

It's not that hard really. If you look at the shots, the motion of the car wouldn't have brought the tyre into contact with the drivers head anyway. I think we're going to see a lot of this: something will hit the halo and everyone will go on about how the Halo is saving lives when it's not clear anything would have hit the driver anyway. Hitting the Halo does not mean it saved the driver.

Perhaps not the tyre, but it's entirely possible that part of the rear crash structure with the rain light would have.

 

[Mr Jack]

Perhaps not the tyre, but it's entirely possible that part of the rear crash structure with the rain light would have.

I think that's also highly unlikely, but either way, the point remains: it's been billed as "halo saved his life" when there's not really any evidence it did any such thing.

 

[MissChief]

I think that's also highly unlikely, but either way, the point remains: it's been billed as "halo saved his life" when there's not really any evidence it did any such thing.

I'm sure if you asked the driver if he'd rather have had it than not I know the answer he'd give. I believe the 'saved his life' quote was mirrored by the driver himself too.

 

[Mr Jack]

I'm sure if you asked the driver if he'd rather have had it than not I know the answer he'd give. I believe the 'saved his life' quote was mirrored by the driver himself too.

Yes, that's what he said. That doesn't mean he's correct.

 

[MissChief]

Yes, that's what he said. That doesn't mean he's correct.

True. It's easy to trot out stuff like this but it's not going anywhere and I find it unlikely anyone is going to do any tests or simulations on if he'd be dead or not without it.

 

[MikeTheNative]

I do find it quite funny that people sitting at home are complaining that a sport, they don't participate in, should be more dangerous. It has zero impact on the racing just the look of the cars.

 

[deuse]

"Mercedes' FIA query prompts new Formula 1 oil rules intrigue"
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/mercedes-apos-fia-query-prompts-081128258.html

So now the turbo is part of the engine. I wonder if it will affect Ferrari?

 

[Deleted member 651465]

Either Merc want it clarifying because they suspect Ferrari shenanigans or they want to know so that they (Merc) can implement some changes to be more competitive.

 

[GravyMonster]

Given the smoke that pours out of Ferrari-engined cars on start up, and the flow of smoke from the breather pipe when running, it'd suggest the former.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

Well, we shouldn't see any more smoke from the Ferrari. Bit by bit their performance advantage is being cut. They certainly pushed the boundaries of the rules this year.

 

[ThestigGT999]

Mercedes sound salty now about having a slower package right now

also Fia changing rules for mercedes? interesting...

 

[The_Abyss]

I do find it quite funny that people sitting at home are complaining that a sport, they don't participate in, should be more dangerous. It has zero impact on the racing just the look of the cars.

Nobody (well, not me anyway) is asking for the sport to be more dangerous. It does affect the look of the cars, and that's largely why it has been questioned - could an equally or more safe solution be found that's also more aesthetically pleasing. F1 is very much about the looks as a sport. I believe that halo also does impact the performance of the car, but agree that it is unlikely to impact the racing as they all have the same problem.

 

[MooMoo444]

I do find it quite funny that people sitting at home are complaining that a sport, they don't participate in, should be more dangerous. It has zero impact on the racing just the look of the cars.

Penis noses had zero impact on the racing but they were changed. Looks are a factor, no matter how you feel. Fans love the cars as well as the racing.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

Mercedes sound salty now about having a slower package right now

also Fia changing rules for mercedes? interesting...

Mercedes asking whether they can do it too? Real salty. Speaking of salty

 

[MikeTheNative]

Penis noses had zero impact on the racing but they were changed. Looks are a factor, no matter how you feel. Fans love the cars as well as the racing.

The penis noses weren't there to make the cars safer though.

 

[Greboth]

Mercedes sound salty now about having a slower package right now

also Fia changing rules for mercedes? interesting...

Sorry what team does the driver leading the drivers championship drive for? and which team leads the constructors championship?

 

[GravyMonster]

The penis noses weren't there to make the cars safer though.

Yes it was; in order to prevent the chance of drivers being hit directly due to the high noses that were around up until 2012.