MP Jo Cox murdered in West Yorkshire [Thread title edited]

John40 · 17 Jun 2016 at 08:55

The dry cleaner owner has just been speaking on LBC and he says nobody shouted "Britain First" and he was right next to the bloke.

b0redj0rd · 17 Jun 2016 at 08:56

This is a sign in the window of a shop close to where Jo was murdered.

b0redj0rd · 17 Jun 2016 at 08:59

John40 said:
The dry cleaner owner has just been speaking on LBC and he says nobody shouted "Britain First" and he was right next to the bloke.

What you mean the luvvies are using this to their own accord?

Merkel basically said it was down to the EU referendum this morning! The EU commissioner said her death was due to her 'dedication to european democracy' - These people are DESPERATE to keep us in the EU and will stoop to any level.

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Cosimo · 17 Jun 2016 at 09:00

John40 said:
The dry cleaner owner has just been speaking on LBC and he says nobody shouted "Britain First" and he was right next to the bloke.

It's not quite what he said:

A sign in a shop by the spot Jo Cox was killed states the claims that the gunman shouted "Britain First" are untrue.

The message in the landerette's window says: "Please note, I did not tackle the gunman. And no one shouted Britain First at any time."

LBC's reporter in Birstall Bethan Davies spoke to Ahmed Tahir, the owner, who insisted he has not spoken to anyone who heard that phrase.

http://www.lbc.co.uk/jo-cox-witness-says-no-one-shouted-britain-first-132375

Chris Wilson · 17 Jun 2016 at 09:00

He could have been talking about a planning application, or something similar where he was upset that UK interests were not dominant, assuming he said anything like that at all. It's all pure conjecture at this stage, and the blanket coverage and endless discourse won't bring an answer any quicker.

To suspend the EU referendum because of this was madness, and another ill conceived, knee jerk reaction by the government.

John40 · 17 Jun 2016 at 09:01

b0redj0rd said:
What you mean the luvvies are using this to their own accord?

Merkel basically said it was down to the EU referendum this morning! The EU commissioner said her death was due to her 'dedication to european democracy' - These people are DESPERATE to keep us in the EU and will stoop to any level.

Desperate and very misguided but totally predictable.

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 17 Jun 2016 at 09:05

b0redj0rd said:
This is a sign in the window of a shop close to where Jo was murdered.

I couldn't care tbh.... I think its time donkey radical parties like Britain First get a taste of their own medicine!

If this was the other way round, you'd see poor Jo Cox on their ballot paper as they beg for votes.... Complete scum and everything Jo Cox stood against!

Britain first has no place in society... What really narks me off is the fact they ban and delete anything they don't like on their page! Even the BNP leaves people express their views! How can they get political party status when that's the case?

Absolute Joke, I just hope we continue to hound the scum for being terrorists because of that one time someone may or may not have shouted "Britain first".

Avenged7Fold · 17 Jun 2016 at 09:08

TBH if he did make a lot of noise about Britain First being shouted, he probably would encounter a lot of trouble and harassment.

At this point, we just have to wait it out for the police investigation and for them to name a motive.

Is there a source fr the claim that he had a subscription to a neo nazi magazine which showed how to make weapons?

[TFU] Thegoon84;29639222 said:
I couldn't care tbh.... I think its time donkey radical parties like Britain First get a taste of their own medicine!

If this was the other way round, you'd see poor Jo Cox on their ballot paper as they beg for votes.... Complete scum and everything Jo Cox stood against!

Britain first has no place in society... What really narks me off is the fact they ban and delete anything they don't like on their page! Even the BNP leaves people express their views! How can they get political party status when that's the case?

Absolute Joke, I just hope we continue to hound the scum for being terrorists because of that one time someone may or may not have shouted "Britain first".

While these extremest nutcases are scum, there is a fraction of them that are against immigration while the rest are actually against foreigners. What ****es me off about them is the way they abuse the deaths of service men and take pictures out of context assigning captions to push their agenda. There was quite a bit of friction between them and the family of the serving lad that got beheaded, since they refused to stop using his image to push their views.

If we treated them as they treated foreigners, their popularity would probably grow as you encourage the more moderate members to take a more them or us view.

Cosimo · 17 Jun 2016 at 09:08

Chris Wilson said:
To suspend the EU referendum because of this was madness, and another ill conceived, knee jerk reaction by the government.

It is the correct decision by all parties as people want to pay their respects/tributes and not hear people making political capital out of this tragic death.

PermaBanned · 17 Jun 2016 at 09:08

Chris Wilson said:
He could have been talking about a planning application, or something similar where he was upset that UK interests were not dominant, assuming he said anything like that at all. It's all pure conjecture at this stage, and the blanket coverage and endless discourse won't bring an answer any quicker.

To suspend the EU referendum because of this was madness, and another ill conceived, knee jerk reaction by the government.

Admirable that you're so dedicated to the truth and don't want anyone to besmirch Britain First's "good name" :rolleyes:

I haven't seen any indication that they're going to cancel our postpone the referendum beyond some conjecture on LBC. The referendum campaigns are suspended by choice as a mark of respect, when many will be unable to campaign during this difficult time for those in politics.

StriderX · 17 Jun 2016 at 09:18

Lol, difficult time for politicians?

Perhaps for her friends in parliament, however everyone are sharks ready and willing to use her as propaganda, if it were socially acceptable, they wouldnt spare a second abusing this.

/\ndy · 17 Jun 2016 at 09:19

All these false reports and headlines is absolutely disgraceful, hate this country sometimes, really is the core of corruption.

Six6siX · 17 Jun 2016 at 09:19

Can anything be done to stop the media peddling biased, inaccurate garbage? There's no need for it. What purpose does it serve other than to fuel anger, discontent and feelings of outrage - especially in regard to political or sensitive issues? What happened to proper journalism, actual reporting of facts and issues?

You'll always get nut jobs but maybe there'd be fewer of them if the media wasn't there shoveling fuel into the fire to make some more cash.

b0redj0rd · 17 Jun 2016 at 09:21

Islamist attack= "nothing to do with islam, how dare you politicize this"

"Britain first" alleged shooter= "All of Brexit is to blame"

/\ndy · 17 Jun 2016 at 09:23

Six6siX said:
What happened to proper journalism, actual reporting of facts and issues?

That died along time ago. Whoever run's this country simply use the media to promote their agenda.

PermaBanned · 17 Jun 2016 at 09:24

StriderX said:
Lol, difficult time for politicians?

Perhaps for her friends in parliament, however everyone are sharks ready and willing to use her as propaganda, if it were socially acceptable, they wouldnt spare a second abusing this.

Everyone who's ever gone campaigning or voiced any sort of political opinion in public has come up against those staunchly opposed to their views. The idea that we should have to fear them is a very dangerous one. Give people time to grieve...

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 17 Jun 2016 at 09:25

Evangelion said:
More on the fascist terrorist who murdered Jo Cox:

(Source).

So a toxic combination of mental illness and far right sympathies.

Mr Jack · 17 Jun 2016 at 09:25

John40 said:
The dry cleaner owner has just been speaking on LBC and he says nobody shouted "Britain First" and he was right next to the bloke.

At least two witnesses have described him as shouting "Britain First". I guess we'll get a better version from Police in the coming days, especially if the brave pensioner who tried to intervene can remember what happened.

Zethor · 17 Jun 2016 at 09:26

b0redj0rd said:
Islamist attack= "nothing to do with islam, how dare you politicize this"

"Britain first" alleged shooter= "All of Brexit is to blame"

Did you ever consider that Nationalism is on the same side as Islamism?

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 17 Jun 2016 at 09:28

Mr Jack said:
At least two witnesses have described him as shouting "Britain First". I guess we'll get a better version from Police in the coming days, especially if the brave pensioner who tried to intervene can remember what happened.

Don't need to even go that far - he was a subscriber to far right media and had mental illness in the past.