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** MSI 290X LIGHTNING IS NOW AVAILABLE!! **

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Gibbo try selecting Extended MSI within afterburner beta 18 settings. That might give you more voltage to play with.

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Will give it a go tomorrow, shut the benching systems down now and got loads of work to catch up with, gonna be a long night.
 
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more like price drop

thankfully availability of 290/290x is getting better - so will be a tough market for it

still tempted it one instead of a 780Ti though :)

The price of 280X and 290's has gone up in the last week or so again, not down.

A bit more and the 280X is getting on for averaging £300, silly money. Its creeping up that way.

Its not about supply, its about demand which is very high, 70% of don't even want them for gaming, most of them just getting stuck into a mining rig.
 
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The price of 280X and 290's has gone up in the last week or so again, not down.

A bit more and the 280X is getting on for averaging £300, silly money. Its creeping up that way.

Its not about supply, its about demand which is very high, 70% of don't even want them for gaming, most of them just getting stuck into a mining rig.

It is about supply, it always boils down to supply.

My backorders with board partners is standing at over 5000 cards, if I did not have backorders and could have whatever stock I needed when I want it, we'd hammer the prices down and go for volume.

Right now I can't do that otherwise we'd be sold out.
 
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The price of 280X and 290's has gone up in the last week or so again, not down.

A bit more and the 280X is getting on for averaging £300, silly money. Its creeping up that way.

Its not about supply, its about demand which is very high, 70% of don't even want them for gaming, most of them just getting stuck into a mining rig.

well price of 290s seems to have dropped a fair amount the last few weeks - for instance the Tri-X was averaging 370-390 2 weeks ago

now averaging more like 340-350
 
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well price of 290s seems to have dropped a fair amount the last few weeks - for instance the Tri-X was averaging 370-390 2 weeks ago

now averaging more like 340-350

290 stocks are much better, hence our lower prices. :)

280/280X is incredibly short and were not even giving discount for bulk orders and they still buy them.
 
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290 stocks are much better, hence our lower prices. :)

280/280X is incredibly short and were not even giving discount for bulk orders and they still buy them.

:)

funny that people are still buying 280x over 290s with the reducing price difference

but the customer is always right - so there you go
 
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It is about supply, it always boils down to supply.

My backorders with board partners is standing at over 5000 cards, if I did not have backorders and could have whatever stock I needed when I want it, we'd hammer the prices down and go for volume.

Right now I can't do that otherwise we'd be sold out.

Supply relates to demand, its because they are selling so many that they are in short supply.

I understand it, i'm still not happy about it as mining has artificially pushed them over whats affordable for gaming, there is a £130 difference between the 270X and 280X, my GPU is a Tahiti LE which more powerful than the 270X and cost £173 a year ago. if i could have afforded a 7970 then i would have bough one then, what we have now is 7970's at 7970's prices. so i'm stuck with a 2GB Tahiti until the next generation by the looks of it.

I didn't expect to be paying 7970 prices for a 7970 2 years later, much to expensive for what they are today.

People are paying £200 for used 2 year old 7950's on the Bay, its insane. the sooner NV Maxwell destroys AMD for mining performance the better, let them gain ~£100 over RRP and bring AMD's back to normality.
 
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:)

funny that people are still buying 280x over 290s with the reducing price difference

but the customer is always right - so there you go

Power consumption maybe, but yes we have some 290's at £299, for the gamer they are a right bargain, top card, one is even a custom design. :)

Prices should be:-

250X - £75-£90
265 - £109
270 - £130
270X - £150
270X 4GB - £169
280 - £179-£199
280X - £219-£259
290 - £319-£359
290X £399-£499


Is where prices should be without shortages etc. Some cards are there, but cards like 280/280X are not, if/when supply improves they will be but the shortages will probably last until around May/June.
 
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Power consumption maybe, but yes we have some 290's at £299, for the gamer they are a right bargain, top card, one is even a custom design. :)

Prices should be:-

250X - £75-£90
265 - £109
270 - £130
270X - £150
270X 4GB - £169
280 - £179-£199
280X - £219-£259
290 - £319-£359
290X £399-£499


Is where prices should be without shortages etc. Some cards are there, but cards like 280/280X are not, if/when supply improves they will be but the shortages will probably last until around May/June.

Cracking price on an AIB cooled 290 Gibbo. £60 cheaper and faster than a reference 780.
 
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nowhere near fast enough, it maxes out at 1125 on air? They avvin a giraffe!

It maxes out at 1180, not 1125.

14.1 and 14.2 beta drivers are known to have a potential powertune bug. Essentially powertune has zero effect and the cards throttle with added voltage.

For example my R9 290X can reach 1220 core clock with + increased voltage using 13.12 drivers. The same card and settings with 14.x Betas are slower than stock, getting 900-1000MHz due to severe throttling. With 14.x drivers I have to stick at ~19mV to reach 1120 core clock, any more volts and the card will throttle. Simply re-installing 13.12 allows me to overclock right up to 1220 again.

Any review using 14.x betas should be taken with a pinch of salt as far as overvolting/overclocking is concerned. There are far too many people seeing this bug and IMHO it renders any R9 290/X overclocking results with 14.x betas as suspect. The recent HardOCP XFX DD 290X Overclocking review showed the exact symptoms I mention here. Not once did the alarm bells ring when they got a measly extra 5MHz (yes that's a five) with overvolting. 1110 stock voltage and 1115 with added voltage, they just said the hardware and cooler couldn't cope in the review. Yet when I pointed out that 14.x had this bug Brent said I was spreading FUD.

I have tested 5x R9 290/X cards and the max overclocks range from 1160 - 1220.
 
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