my new 2070 Super giving same performance as my old rx580?

lloydcars18 · 7 Aug 2019 at 22:01

Hey there folks so basically received my new GPU today and got it all up and running and used the MSI afterburner OC scanner to get a bit more performance it hits a maximum of 2085mhz and boosts on average to around 2000mhz so the gpu is doing its job the problem i have is when playing Destiny 2 which is my main game when using the same settings as i did with my rx 580 so basically everything on High bar some things on low/medium i am still averaging around 80fps with lows of 55 and highs of 100ish?

im assuming it's software related any help is greatly appreciated shall i try doing a fresh game install or maybe use DDU again and reinstall the drivers?

Also i clocked my 1700 to 3.6ghz and still the same fps don't have my AIO yet so can't go any higher?

Poneros · 7 Aug 2019 at 22:12

Check gpu usage %, and test at higher resolutions as well to see if it's a cpu bottleneck (very likely) - use DSR.

SkeeterUK · 7 Aug 2019 at 22:33

Try setting power option in nvidia panel to max performance also check for vsync butting in somehow.

Maybe try a reinstall of the game incase its settings are borked.

Also sounds like a similar issue as yours.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTechSupport/comments/a5ejv1/low_fps_on_an_rtx_2070/

Found it i think, its ur bios.

https://www.gigabyte.com/uk/Motherboard/GA-AX370-Gaming-K7-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios

Latest bios says:

Update AGESA 1.0.0.3 ABB
Improve Destiny 2 gaming compatibility
Due to AGESA 1.0.0.3 ABB, PCIe Gen4 support has removed when using a 3rd Gen Ryzen (Matisse) CPU

Note: Before updating BIOS to this new version, you MUST follow the steps as BIOS F40 Note's description in advanced

Also i heard chipset drivers help it too which is latest from last month.

AMD Chipset Driver
(Note) Win10 ver.1903 supported.
(Note) For 3rd AMD Ryzen CPU support.
[19.10.16]
548.85 MB
2019/07/05

arc@css · 7 Aug 2019 at 22:37

I thought Destiny 2 was a problem title for Ryzen processors?

lloydcars18 · 7 Aug 2019 at 22:55

Yea that bios update is for the 3rd gen ryzen chips that were crashing on D2 I'll give it a try though tomorrow something is definitely not right I know my cpu will be limiting my fps but not by that much surely I'm getting a 4th gen chip next year?

Davanius · 7 Aug 2019 at 23:04

You need a bigger overclock with a GPU that strong on your 1700.

Run at a lower resolution and if the fps stays the same then it's your CPU.

When you get your new cooler try for 3.9 Ghz or round about.

Hand on heart, my advise is to get a 3600 or better with such a good GPU.

lloydcars18 · 7 Aug 2019 at 23:08

@Davanius yea I'm hoping for 3.9ghz I'm getting a Deepcool Castle 360 rgb and the 3600 is only around 10-15% faster at 1080p so not really worth it rather just get a 4700 next year.

silk186 · 7 Aug 2019 at 23:20

I think you might need to upgrade to the 3xxx series for the gains in IPC and higher clock.

lloydcars18 · 7 Aug 2019 at 23:50

@silk186 I just spent over 500 pounds on a new gpu which is a lot of money for me spent 6 months saving can't afford to go get a 3000 series plus I don't think it would be worth it in Gears 4 benchmark the gpu usage is like 70-75% and cpu only 30%.

d_brennen · 7 Aug 2019 at 23:55

lloydcars18 said:
in Gears 4 benchmark the gpu usage is like 70-75% and cpu only 30%.

If you're not frame limiting/gsync/freesync/vertical sync etc and NOT hitting 100% GPU usage then it's sat there waiting for something to do from your CPU instead of rendering more frames. CPU usage can be misleading

Poneros · 8 Aug 2019 at 01:58

lloydcars18 said:
@silk186 I just spent over 500 pounds on a new gpu which is a lot of money for me spent 6 months saving can't afford to go get a 3000 series plus I don't think it would be worth it in Gears 4 benchmark the gpu usage is like 70-75% and cpu only 30%.

Sadly that means it's the cpu. Download shadow of the tomb raider demo on steam and run that benchmark as well, in dx12.

z10m · 8 Aug 2019 at 07:48

Yep it is CPU bottleneck unfortunately. My 980ti doesn't run at 100% at times in destiny 2 and that's at 3440x1440 with Ryzen 7 [email protected].

Davanius · 8 Aug 2019 at 07:53

lloydcars18 said:
@Davanius yea I'm hoping for 3.9ghz I'm getting a Deepcool Castle 360 rgb and the 3600 is only around 10-15% faster at 1080p so not really worth it rather just get a 4700 next year.

Sounds like a plan.

I had to upgrade my 1600 when I got a 1080 Ti mainly due to Gears 4 and Destiny 2. Take a look at my findings in this thread.

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/upgrade-advice-amd-or-intel.18810934/page-2

LeMson · 8 Aug 2019 at 07:56

3700x and find some better games to play

Brazo · 8 Aug 2019 at 08:44

I can’t see why an eight core cpu isn’t suddenly up to the job?

https://www.gamersnexus.net/game-bench/3097-destiny-2-launch-cpu-benchmark-ryzen-vs-kaby-lake

These cpu benchmarks show it to average 144fps, which short of upgrading to a four core intel does seem a big improvement over what your getting now?

Besty · 8 Aug 2019 at 08:48

lloydcars18 said:
Hey there folks so basically received my new GPU today and got it all up and running and used the MSI afterburner OC scanner to get a bit more performance it hits a maximum of 2085mhz and boosts on average to around 2000mhz so the gpu is doing its job the problem i have is when playing Destiny 2 which is my main game when using the same settings as i did with my rx 580 so basically everything on High bar some things on low/medium i am still averaging around 80fps with lows of 55 and highs of 100ish?

im assuming it's software related any help is greatly appreciated shall i try doing a fresh game install or maybe use DDU again and reinstall the drivers?

Also i clocked my 1700 to 3.6ghz and still the same fps don't have my AIO yet so can't go any higher?

leave the 2080 at stock. run timespy from 3d mark and post the results here.

z10m · 8 Aug 2019 at 09:13

Brazo said:
I can’t see why an eight core cpu isn’t suddenly up to the job?

https://www.gamersnexus.net/game-bench/3097-destiny-2-launch-cpu-benchmark-ryzen-vs-kaby-lake

These cpu benchmarks show it to average 144fps, which short of upgrading to a four core intel does seem a big improvement over what your getting now?

I dont know how or which part of the game GN tested but thats not what people are getting (including me) in Destiny 2 running on Ryzen 1xxx/2xxx.
Just checked myself and the game is CPU bottlenecked at 70fps in tower and can drop to much less than that when there is a lot of action.
This is on Ryzen 7 [email protected] with 2866 cl14 ram.

oweneades · 8 Aug 2019 at 09:38

Cpu bottleneck in D2. Had the exact same thing moving from a 1080ti to a 2080ti on a 2700x. Even at 1440p my gpu usage was low in certain areas. Tower and Titan were especially bad whilst gpu bound areas such as Dreaming city were much better.

Switching to the 3900x saw a massive improvement, 70-80 in the tower is now over 100 and 65-75 on Titan is now 90+.

EDIT: Quick way of testing is to increase render scale to 150%. If your framerate doesn't drop then you have a CPU limit.

This is exactly what my wife does on her Ryzen 2600/RTX 2080 ITX system (well technically a custom res). Her monitor is 1080p but she runs D2 at 4k effective with a locked 75fps.

lloydcars18 · 8 Aug 2019 at 14:53

lloydcars18 · 8 Aug 2019 at 14:55

As you can see from the above image this is with a 1080 ti and is a launch benchmark so surely fps would improve over time instead of decline with driver updates

somethings not right and im determined to figure it out just updated my chipset drivers so gonna try that now.

Here's the Gears 4 benchmark surely it can't be bottlenecking my GPU by 95% ?