My new gaming rig

jpod · 29 Dec 2020 at 17:58

mickyflinn said:
If your .........

I was very lucky and picked up an RTX 3090 and I want to game at 165hz at 1440p; currently WARZONE COD

Do I go i7 or AMD 5600x?
Which board?
Which cooler?

Many thanks

mickyflinn · 29 Dec 2020 at 21:15

5600x is 10700 money and has 2 more cores which does seem an attractive option. The only pronlem with intel is the lack of pcie4 which is not a big deal at the momment may be more relevant in the future.

silvagti · 29 Dec 2020 at 21:33

Given the uncompetitive pricing and availability issues surrounding the Ryzen 5000 range I think I'd stick with Intel for a gaming PC right now.

dfour · 30 Dec 2020 at 16:33

silvagti said:
Given the uncompetitive pricing and availability issues surrounding the Ryzen 5000 range I think I'd stick with Intel for a gaming PC right now.

Lol. Now AMD have a competative product and can charge a bit more money (remember they are a business in the end) and suddenly they are uncompetative

I agree with the availability issues though

@jpod Your current psu will be fine,

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core 4.6GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £319.99
1 x Alpenfohn Brocken 3 CPU Cooler - 140mm= £42.95
1 x MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk (AMD AM4) B550 ATX Motherboard= £169.99

Total: £543.43 (includes shipping: £10.50)

All in stock. Unfortunatly the motherboard has gone up £20 since I first recommended this to you.

jpod · 30 Dec 2020 at 18:05

dfour said:
Lol. Now AMD have a competative product and can charge a bit more money (remember they are a business in the end) and suddenly they are uncompetative

I agree with the availability issues though

@jpod Your current psu will be fine,

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core 4.6GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £319.99

1 x Alpenfohn Brocken 3 CPU Cooler - 140mm= £42.95

1 x MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk (AMD AM4) B550 ATX Motherboard= £169.99

Total: £543.43 (includes shipping: £10.50)

All in stock. Unfortunatly the motherboard has gone up £20 since I first recommended this to you.

Hi Bud, thanks for this.

What about i7 10700K which has two more cores?
Asus ROG Strix Z490 G
Noctua NF A15 cooler
32GB 3600 DDR4

And thanks for sharing your expertise

silvagti · 30 Dec 2020 at 18:29

dfour said:
Lol. Now AMD have a competative product and can charge a bit more money (remember they are a business in the end) and suddenly they are uncompetative
.

I get your point but given the OP wanted a gaming PC I feel given the performance in that area tends to favour team blue and the AMD no longer have the pricing advantage I'd be inclined to stick with Intel.

For content creation it'd be worth going AMD though.

VonScar · 30 Dec 2020 at 19:04

With a 3090, I think you need 5800X minimum to drive it. I think 5600X may hold that monster GPU back. I may be wrong, but that CPU an GPU do not match.

I bought the following, however I never intend to buy a 3090, due to the crazy prices.

Asus B550 Strix E

▷ Asus ROG Strix B550-E Gaming (AMD AM4) B550 A… | OcUK (overclockers.co.uk)

AMD 5600X

▷ AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core 4.6GHz (Socket AM4… | OcUK (overclockers.co.uk)

Be Quiet Dark Rock Slim, a silent cooler. Rated up to 180 watts.

▷ be quiet! Dark Rock Slim CPU Cooler - 120mm | OcUK (overclockers.co.uk)

I would pair your CPU with....AMD 5900X, but it costs a whopping £599.99.

▷ AMD Ryzen 9 5900X Twelve Core 4.8GHz (Socket … | OcUK (overclockers.co.uk)

Note your 3090 is PCI-E 4, only AMD are doing PCI-E 4. It may not use all the bandwidth of PCI-E, but you may lose a few percentage points going Intel with PCI-E 3 boards....Pci Express, on Intel is a bit behind.

jpod · 30 Dec 2020 at 19:22

Hi thanks for posting.

I gather the i7 is similar gaming prowess to i9.

My bandwidth would be limited if I added lots of drives and another card. But with my rudimentary google-fu PCIE 4 is not necessary for 1x 3090 card/

silvagti said:
I get your point but given the OP wanted a gaming PC I feel given the performance in that area tends to favour team blue and the AMD no longer have the pricing advantage I'd be inclined to stick with Intel.

For content creation it'd be worth going AMD though.

cheers for posting.

jpod · 30 Dec 2020 at 19:23

VonScar said:
With a 3090, ..,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Note your 3090 is PCI-E 4, only AMD are doing PCI-E 4. It may not use all the bandwidth of PCI-E, but you may lose a few percentage points going Intel with PCI-E 3 boards....Pci Express, on Intel is a bit behind.

See above

dfour · 31 Dec 2020 at 16:40

jpod said:
Hi Bud, thanks for this.

What about i7 10700K which has two more cores?
Asus ROG Strix Z490 G
Noctua NF A15 cooler
32GB 3600 DDR4

And thanks for sharing your expertise

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Intel Core i7-10700K Avengers Edition 3.8GHz (Comet Lake) Socket LGA1200 Processor - Retail= £349.99
1 x Asus ROG Strix Z490-G Gaming (WI-FI) (Socket LGA 1200) DDR4 Micro-ATX Motherboard= £239.99
1 x Patriot Viper Steel 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit (PVS432G320C6K)= £119.99

Total: £720.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)

In gaming the 5600x beats the older i7-9700k in every test. The 10700k is barely 5% faster so over all it would still lose out to the 5600x.

https://www.hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/146662-amd-ryzen-7-5800x-ryzen-5-5600x/?page=6

jpod · 1 Jan 2021 at 13:47

dfour said:
My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Intel Core i7-10700K Avengers Edition 3.8GHz (Comet Lake) Socket LGA1200 Processor - Retail= £349.99

1 x Asus ROG Strix Z490-G Gaming (WI-FI) (Socket LGA 1200) DDR4 Micro-ATX Motherboard= £239.99

1 x Patriot Viper Steel 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit (PVS432G320C6K)= £119.99

Total: £720.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)

In gaming the 5600x beats the older i7-9700k in every test. The 10700k is barely 5% faster so over all it would still lose out to the 5600x.

https://www.hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/146662-amd-ryzen-7-5800x-ryzen-5-5600x/?page=6

All the best dfour and thanks for posting.

I hear you, and I think this review illustrates your point even better, particularly at 1440p which is what I am aiming at. Team red it is - I will go 5600x.
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_5_5600x_review,27.html

Thanks for the pointers, much appreciated.

jpod · 1 Jan 2021 at 13:48

VonScar said:
With a 3090, I think you need 5800X minimum to drive it. I think 5600X may hold that monster GPU back. I may be wrong, but that CPU an GPU do not match.

I bought the following, however I never intend to buy a 3090, due to the crazy prices.

Asus B550 Strix E

▷ Asus ROG Strix B550-E Gaming (AMD AM4) B550 A… | OcUK (overclockers.co.uk)

AMD 5600X

▷ AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core 4.6GHz (Socket AM4… | OcUK (overclockers.co.uk)

Be Quiet Dark Rock Slim, a silent cooler. Rated up to 180 watts.

▷ be quiet! Dark Rock Slim CPU Cooler - 120mm | OcUK (overclockers.co.uk)

I would pair your CPU with....AMD 5900X, but it costs a whopping £599.99.

▷ AMD Ryzen 9 5900X Twelve Core 4.8GHz (Socket … | OcUK (overclockers.co.uk)

Note your 3090 is PCI-E 4, only AMD are doing PCI-E 4. It may not use all the bandwidth of PCI-E, but you may lose a few percentage points going Intel with PCI-E 3 boards....Pci Express, on Intel is a bit behind.

Looks a cracking rig that, thanks for posting.