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My old card fared better than expected..

Have to agree, I am still on my 5850 and it has been with me since Jan 2010 running everything at high graphics.

I was sure that I would need to upgrade for Battlefield 3 but didn't need to and I was also sure I would need to upgrade when I bought my Samsung 23" 3D monitor, but again it is handling everything just fine!

5800 series was and still is legendary in my opinion.

Definitely looking at a 7950 though for Planetside 2 :)

It's just an ok card, nothing more. It can shine or crumble depending on the game, IQ and FPS you want. But that goes for older cards too. It always has been. :)
 
It's just an ok card, nothing more. It can shine or crumble depending on the game, IQ and FPS you want. But that goes for older cards too. It always has been. :)

That's not true, every so often a card comes along that gives a much more impressive bang for buck than others in the marketplace.

Obviously there are better cards than the 5850 but anyone who picked one up like I did for less than 90 quid brand new and can still get decent frame rates at high graphical settings can't be too unhappy, especially as the next gen cards that followed gave less performance than the 5850 at the time.
 
I agree, in those conditions is a good deal IF the IQ/FPS is fine with you. But, I had the card and it wasn't great or legendary - a little bit of lag or stutter in certain conditions even though the FPS was high. That's why I've sold it and that's why I'll sell my 6970 as soon as the next generations will appear (MSAA and AO give those nuisance in some games, although the 6970 card can overcome it to some extent). 35-45FPS on avg. in BF 3 (ultra settings) it's terrible, feels just like gaming in 17-20 FPS. :)
 
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I understand where you are coming from Calin, a moderately priced mid-range card like the 6970 that can hit 45fps on BF3 @ ultra... not a bad little card. The problem though is graphics card fever, doesn't matter how good it is, always want more! :)

I can quite happily afford any top end card but always feel much better getting something a gen or so behind and getting a good deal, it's the bargain hunter in me, esp. if I can pick one up which can be flashed to enable additional shaders, pipelines etc. for no money.
 
At 1680x1050 my 5870 struggles like crazy with Serious Sam 3 with high settings so have to be toned down quite a bit and there are times in DIII where there is a bit of slow down. On the whole, though, I am very happy with the card, especially as it was bought for me as a gift and can't see me upgrading for a while yet.

Mainly because I have no money :p
 
I understand where you are coming from Calin, a moderately priced mid-range card like the 6970 that can hit 45fps on BF3 @ ultra... not a bad little card. The problem though is graphics card fever, doesn't matter how good it is, always want more! :)

I can quite happily afford any top end card but always feel much better getting something a gen or so behind and getting a good deal, it's the bargain hunter in me, esp. if I can pick one up which can be flashed to enable additional shaders, pipelines etc. for no money.

Not in my case. I play on fairly low res monitor (1680x1050) so a good card should handle a lot of games with ease. If it does, I don't change it. As it stands now, 6970 can't give a 50-60FPS with top image quality (or close) in a lot of games. That 40 FPS în BF 3 is a joke due to stutter and lag in movement that gives the sensation of a 20FPS gameplay (all Dice's fault in my book - poor multiplayer optimization just like in BC2; same engine after all). That's the story behind a lot of cards witch doesn't show in almost none of the reviews (except perhaps, for techreport inside the second method). That was the story of 5850, 5770, GTX 470, GT 440 (including the stutter with physix running on the same GPU that does the 3D part too) in my case.
I like to pay 200E/card that will give me in the end, the same time value as two 100E card, plus the benefit of the first year's high end performance vs. medium/mainstream two years in a row. It doesn't mean that my way of upgrading is better (that 200E may very well be 230-250E :D), but is definitely fine by me.

Anyway, my point is that a card is good or bad only to the person's "desires" if it's not benchmarked on the best IQ the game can give (like most reviewers do). For some, turning down a detail is unacceptable, but the same detail, will mean nothing for the other guy. Unfortunately, the obscene prices of the "new" HD7xxx series and Gf 6xx series, keep that two generations old card, at a good price point for a low/medium budget gamer with all it's problems that I've stated above.

At 1680x1050 my 5870 struggles like crazy with Serious Sam 3 with high settings so have to be toned down quite a bit and there are times in DIII where there is a bit of slow down. On the whole, though, I am very happy with the card, especially as it was bought for me as a gift and can't see me upgrading for a while yet.

Mainly because I have no money :p

Serious Sam goes over 1GB vRAM quite often - more and more games do that. I can play on the same res on ultra with no major problems, somtething in the line of 60-70FPS+, rarely dips into high 30-40, but, the drop doesn't feel abrupt and it still waaaay smoother than BF 3. :D Considering there shouldn't be a huge gap between the cards 5870 vs. 6970 (SS 3 don't do DX 11/tessellation), that could be the only explanation I see. To bad they've crippled the card with only 1GB RAM.
 
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Similar story for me, had a 5750 then bought a 27" 1440p monitor (Korean job) and hadn't a clue which card to upgrade to. I was amazed how well the 5750 actually performed at that resolution. OK it wasn't smooth but given the price and the fact that the 7xxx series AMD cards and the 6xx series NVIDIA cards had just been released it really highlighted the want vs need conundrum!

I upgraded to a 7850 due to the OC'ability (sic) and for the money it's superb. I only really play Skyrim to any great degree (year I know spending nearly £500 on a monitor and GPU is mental for one game but it had been nearly 5 years since I bought any new PC stuff and I had a 'non STD related itch :) )

Like the OP I guess it really pays dividends to acutally try stuff out with what you are actually going tobe using day in day out and then find the best solution for you. Im sure plenty of people couldn't cope with a 7850 @ 2560*1440 with a load of mods in Skyrim (some of them do kill FPS in certain areas) but in terms of bang for buck (apologies for the Americanism but the alliteration does work!) I'm glad I didn't go for a much more expensive card until i actually what it would do for me in terms of real world usage.
 
on the other side of the coin, I've got a 2nd 670 arriving today because having to lower settings from what I'm used to in BF3 and dips to 40FPS were annoying me going from 1080p to 1440p
 
I recently went from 1680x1050 to 1920x1080 monitor and I find that my 5850 is struggling somewhat.

It could do pretty much any game at max or close to max settings at 1680, sometimes needing to tweak AA or turn it off, but at 1920 I find it can't really do AA very well at all

My main game is Trackmania Nations/United Forever and it's really distracting for me to have jaggies everywhere (and FPS drops are not an option).

Overall its been a really good card for all of 3 years minus a faulty fan forcing me to change the cooler to one that makes the card just over 2 slots high so getting a 2nd card is out of the question.

Currently looking at 670s as a potential upgrade although not had an nVidia card for a very long time
 
The only thing about the 5 series that i didnt like was how hot the VRMS on those cards got.

VRMS on the 6 series are far far better in terms of cooling, though i bet the 7 series are even better power reg cooling on them.
 
just goes to prove once again that the latest graphics cards albeit being fast are just not necessary for the current crop of games.

exactly my point, if you earn your money the hard way then you wouldnt be wasting the money on all them stupid cards just to post youtube videos and see a differance in fps, it dont make sense, just do big jumps in graphics cards instead of upgrading alll tetime as soon as th latest one comes out.
 
just goes to prove once again that the latest graphics cards albeit being fast are just not necessary for the current crop of games.

iam sick of telling my friends this , they sold there 580's to buy 670/690s and theres no real gain imo.

Even better when they say its future proof , why dont they just buy it when they need it and save £350 or w.e

same with i7 cpu's they will be fine for years to come i bet.

rant over
 
exactly my point, if you earn your money the hard way then you wouldnt be wasting the money on all them stupid cards just to post youtube videos and see a differance in fps, it dont make sense, just do big jumps in graphics cards instead of upgrading alll tetime as soon as th latest one comes out.

iam sick of telling my friends this , they sold there 580's to buy 670/690s and theres no real gain imo.

Even better when they say its future proof , why dont they just buy it when they need it and save £350 or w.e

same with i7 cpu's they will be fine for years to come i bet.

rant over


I sold my 580 for over £300, waited a couple of weeks and got a 670 for just over £300... so my upgrade cost me nothing

my other plan was to have bought a 2nd 580 so then I'd have been over £600 in the hole for GPU's which over the next 6 months would drop in value even more

I've always lost less money by upgrading every gen selling the old one - rather than buying a £300+ GPU and then having to give it away and buy from fresh in 2 years time

my 580 struggled to hold 60fps in BF3 with all the eyecandy on, yet a 670 does so flawlessly - and effectively for about £10 after fees and postage etc.
 
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