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My stock Ryzen cooler is stuck

Discussion in 'Overclocking & Cooling' started by masto, 8 Oct 2021.

  1. masto

    Gangster

    Joined: 29 Apr 2012

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    Location: Sevenoaks

    Hi,

    I'm wondering if anyone has any advice for me.

    I have a Ryzen 1600 that's been running for around 4 years. I installed the stock cooler, with whatever paste/pad it came with at the time. Recently, I've wanted to replace the cooler with something quieter, as it has been getting noisier over time. Problem is, I cannot get the existing cooler to move at all.

    I've tried running prime for an hour to heat things up, but the cooler just won't budge. I've tried twisting it / sliding it, but it doesn't move and I'm worried I'm going to apply too much force and rip the CPU out of the socket.

    Anyone had a similar experience who could share how they got around the problem?

    Cheers.
     
  2. throwaway4372

    Gangster

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    you've tried all the smart things, now you either leave it or risk it
     
  3. Armageus

    Don

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    Location: Spalding, Lincolnshire

    As long as you've tried to heat the chip up there isn't really any more you can do.

    Just lay the case on it's side (so that the weight of the cooler can't accidentally fall and pull the chip out) and then basically follow AMD's instructions.

    Release the cam lever, unhook the retaining clips, and then try to twist the cooler backwards and forwards a few times.

    https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/cpu-7


     
  4. Haz123

    Gangster

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    If you do dmg the pins getting it out then it is a good excuse to upgrade to a 3600.
     
  5. masto

    Gangster

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    Thanks for the comments, all. Think I'll give it one more go, after running it maxed out for a while again. Any issue with removing the backplate / loosening the retaining screws, then laying it horizontally and firing up prime? Stops things cooling while I spend time disconnecting things, which may mean it comes off.

    (the cooler is the one with screws and a backplate, not clips)

    :)

    I was thinking a new motherboard too, in the event of damage, which would mean a 5600X, which would then mean new RAM.
     
  6. Armageus

    Don

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    Yep should be fine - just keep an eye on temperatures (due to it not being tensioned by the screws), and on it suddenly popping loose if the thermal paste's bond is released (but again should be fine with it lying down)
     
  7. masto

    Gangster

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    Well, I ran it for 100 minutes at 54 degrees with the screws loosened, turned it off, and immediately tried twisting the cooler. Still wouldn't budge.

    Looks like I'm stuck with it permanently. Never had thermal paste act like glue before.
     
  8. Joxeon

    Soldato

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    Attach a Gclamp to the cooler as that should give you more leverage.
     
  9. masto

    Gangster

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    Wouldn't that just rip the CPU out of the socket? I could have used more force with just my hand, but didn't as I was concerned I'd end up breaking something.
     
  10. Quartz

    Capodecina

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    Try it without the fan plugged in, so you get the thermal compound good and hot. You won't need anywhere near 100 mins, though!
     
  11. Joxeon

    Soldato

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    Just use it to twist rather than pulling.
     
  12. Drumroll

    Wise Guy

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    This.
    Gently twisting may do, but I would try using a hairdryer in case the chip is not getting hot enough to allow the thermal paste/compound to soften.
     
  13. drakulton

    Wise Guy

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    As twisting the cooler isn't loosening it from the CPU, then your only alternative is to pull the cooler and CPU out in one go. The socket contacts operated by the tension arm are not strong enough to do any damage to the CPU pins. Then you just have to separate the CPU from the cooler, which will be a much easier job.
     
  14. Armageus

    Don

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    Fishing line between the cooler and CPU might work, personally id try and separate them first, as removing it from the cooler if you get it out the socket, will be more difficult without bending any pins
     
  15. Purgatory

    Soldato

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    You could try slipping a credit card between the cooler and cpu gently to release it.
     
  16. masto

    Gangster

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    Tried running it without the fan connected and got it up to 90C. Still no movement at all. I am twisting, not pulling.

    Think I'll just leave it as is.

    Thanks for all the suggestions.
     
  17. The Old School Gamer

    Wise Guy

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    I have done just this a few times now with no damage.
    Pull straight up slowly applying more and more force till it just pops off.
    That white crap on the wraith's is like glue, I always wipe it off and apply a line of MX instead.
     
    Last edited: 10 Oct 2021
  18. masto

    Gangster

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    Great, I'll take that approach when it comes to me having to remove it.

    And I won't be using the pre-applied stuff again, that's for sure.