Native (untranscoded) MKV network playback on TV

morfmedia said:
That Samsung is available cheaper than that I think?
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and the price of the latest samsungs has dropped....richer sounds 1st included 5yr warranty and are now no longer doing online purchase/advertising price online ...possibly to prevent easy price match with john lewis?

volatile pricing times for the series 8?..
 
More in store testing complete.

Samsung Series 7 seems better value than 8..8 is £100+ for some marketting pq and a prettier bezel/stand supposedly.

spanner in the works from LG. the 760T is the first tested smart tv that could show / hide the subtitle track in the mkv....it also supported better seeking functionality (jump to specific point on timeline) in the mkv. LG couldnt play mp3s/flacs over dlna...but i have to assume this was user error and willl try again.

All samsungs from series 6 onwards can play 24bit 96khz flacs (cant read the tags or show a progress bar, but you cant have everything.

no freesat on lg :-(

microsoft have announce web browser on xbox. http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-06/04/ie-on-xbox
general feeling in store was web browsing on tv had not really come of age...hopefully ms can do better...although it will need a gold membership!
 
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One thing to note is that almost all of the players built into the TV play the video back at 60hz.

This may not be a problem for you, some people prefer their content to be played back at the videos native rate (usually 24hz) to try and avoid judder, most of the time I'm not that fussy.

Again a HDMI cable form the PC usually fixes this as most video cards will output at that refresh.

I have a D8000 plasma and have not really found any problems with MKV playback, subs built into the MKV will work but I don't think separate .sub files do, it will even pass 5.1 back to my receiver using ARC on HDMI.

Edit: Oh yeah I just use the samsung Allshare software on a PC to share the content, I've also used serviio and that worked as well
 
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Frosty81 said:
One thing to note is that almost all of the players built into the TV play the video back at 60hz.

This may not be a problem for you, some people prefer their content to be played back at the videos native rate (usually 24hz) to try and avoid judder, most of the time I'm not that fussy.

Again a HDMI cable form the PC usually fixes this as most video cards will output at that refresh.

I have a D8000 plasma and have not really found any problems with MKV playback, subs built into the MKV will work but I don't think separate .sub files do, it will even pass 5.1 back to my receiver using ARC on HDMI.

Edit: Oh yeah I just use the samsung Allshare software on a PC to share the content, I've also used serviio and that worked as well
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thanks for feedback...
another 3 hours of instore testing complete.

The 2012 panasonics (LED+Plasma), samsung series 6,7,8, and LGs seem to all generally support
SBS 3D MKV
subtitle selection in mkv (as advised above) - you just have to find it.
functional seek (you just have to find it on the samsung..but it is there.

I found web browsing on the panasonic when using the supplied remote most functional (text entry and navigation)
However both the LG and Panasonic crashed when playing youtube content.
LG fared worst, then Panasonic.
Samsung faired best and did not crash on any websites..but needs a bluetooth keyboard (fortunately the samsung cashback offer means the keyboard doesnt have to cost you). + a keyboard will result in the best overall web experience no doubt (testing a keyboard next visit).
Panasonics support a keyboard.

ST50 dooesnt have freesat....

I could not get mp3 or flac files to show on ps3 media server on panasonic..could not get flacs to show on lg...i have to assume this is user error still...will try again..the manual says they are supported.

So for me, the biggest steal if you dont need freesat and dont expect 100% compatibility with websites, and like plasmas.... is the ST50 - its a bargain.
Panasonic say that html 5 and flash is supported, so hopefully compatibility will get better with future firmware updates...and general web navigation eg to bbc.co.uk is fine (and very functional on the panasonic remote). (as functional as using an on screen keyboard can be).

if you need freesat or 50", the GT50 is still significantly cheaper than series 7.
50 inch £1180
47inc series 7 £1400 but comes with £150 "voucher".

for me though for maximum confidence in codec compatibility i will go with series 7 samsung. Not being able to see mp3 and flacs in dlna on panasonic and terrible experience with codec compatibility 5yrs ago (possibly unfair), just gives me more confidence with samsung.

Series 7 is £220 more, but i because my mate wants one and we both want keyboards we can use the vouchers to ofset the additional cost + apparently better web compatability + it has skype camera + it has some voice and gesture "gimmicks" (im sure).

That said, very impressed with this years mkv compatibility, seek, subtitles and 3d accross all the brands mentioned. (Havent tried sony)
 
Is there a reason why the AllShare app is Windows only? I'm gutted I cannot get another app to work on OS X or rather it's playback/streaming. Medialink. The TV can see the MediaLink setup but cannot play the films.
 
That's a great app. Thanks, ginjaninja! Just a shame it lacks resuming that the AllShare app can supply on Windows.
 
Further testing of Samsung 7 Series.

divx, mp4, avi containers tested.
embedded subtitle and audio track switching supported.
various divx profiles test (3,4,5, low)
xvid tested.
AC3, AAC LC, AAC LC-SBR, MP3 (Mpeg1 layer 3), tested

Only thing series 7 wouldnt play natively was 'vorbis' audio...but it at least gave a friendly "Vorbis Not Supported" message.

I wonder whether resume is part of the DLNA standard or something propriety in the Samsung software.
 
Tested upscaling on the 7000 and 8000 with some HDTVRIPs H264 720x404, side by side.
No discernible difference.
And upscaling was reasonable and no worse than my XBOX 360 (and samsung was on 46" rather than 42" panel).
trusted reviews seemed to think there may have been an upscaling difference, but i couldnt see it.
 
my Samsung LED 5 & 7 series play everything I have asked of it, other than M2TS, so not really an issue!
MKV play over the network with no issues, but do not attempt via wireless unless they are small files (TV Shows etc).

I use Mezzmo for DLNA now, but the standard Samsung software worked too, in a very basic way.

The Resume function depends on the TV rather than the DLNA client.. my 7 supports it but my 5 doesn't.
 
Ezah said:
The Resume function depends on the TV rather than the DLNA client.. my 7 supports it but my 5 doesn't.
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Then that makes no sense to my posts. If that was the case I'd have no resume on Windows either.
 
by "Resume" I take it you mean the ability to jump to the last position watched, when starting a movie by pressing the blue button?

I cant resume on a 5 series no matter what DLNA client I use..but I can on a 7. They are both "allshare"
 
Or play button, but yes. There's no resume on any OS X DLNA app I've used so far. I've to remember what time it was to skip too.
 
Ezah said:
my Samsung LED 5 & 7 series play everything I have asked of it, other than M2TS, so not really an issue!
MKV play over the network with no issues, but do not attempt via wireless unless they are small files (TV Shows etc).

I use Mezzmo for DLNA now, but the standard Samsung software worked too, in a very basic way.

The Resume function depends on the TV rather than the DLNA client.. my 7 supports it but my 5 doesn't.
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Just got my tv home.
ue7000 plays m2ts containers (AVC, AC3 tested).
also flacs do have a progress bar (inc 24bit 96khz)...
maybe theres been a software update.
 
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