Negotiating Salary

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Hello,

I have been offered a new job which if i took would work out a lot easier as it would be closer to my parents and closer to my partners family too. Im currently working in Winchester and the new job is in Bedford. My family live in Newcastle.

Unfortunately Salary was not discussed at the interview and when he phoned me yesterday he offered me £1,000 less a year. I stated that I would like it if he would meet my current salary and he said that might be possible but obviously he then went on to state that he had only met me the once and didn't know how I would work out which is a fair comment.

I then said i would sleep on it and telephone back today.

What do you guys think i should do ?
 
He has still only met you the once and doesn't know how you will work out on £1000 less.

Are there better prospects at this place? If you can afford to drop £1k now for the chance to earn £5k more in a year then it may be worth it, if not then I would say that you want the job but cannot afford a drop in your current pay so can only take it if they match your current wages.
 
Sounds like he is trying it on. He is prepared to offer you the job yet isnt sure if you will work out? There arent too many jobs around that require more than one interview to get the job, you must have impressed enough to get it. So I dont see his reasoning.

Like the other poster said, you have to think about what this job offers other than just wages. Are the prospects for further earnings at this job better? Is travel better?
 
How about suggesting a one month trial and increasing to match your current jobs salary if he keeps you on.

May get you in the door and upto the salary you are currently on or may just give him an extra month to fill the position with someone who will accept the lower salary.

It's all a gamble.

RB
 
How about suggesting a one month trial and increasing to match your current jobs salary if he keeps you on.

May get you in the door and upto the salary you are currently on or may just give him an extra month to fill the position with someone who will accept the lower salary.

It's all a gamble.

RB

Hello,

I can't really afford to do this if I move it's for good i can be changing jobs etc.
 
Hello,

I can't really afford to do this if I move it's for good i can be changing jobs etc.

No job is 100% secure anyway. It sounds like you really want the job, but don't want to take the pay cut. Is the move closer to people worth £1000 a year?

Did you ask about career progression, etc? Is it likely that you'll move on/up fairly quickly once you prove yourself?

There's no real advice to give for salary negotiations, it very much depends on:

1. Do they really want you, or do they just want *someone*.
2. Do they have the budget.
3. Will it mean that you will be paid more than your co-workers, even if you've just started.

Only the guy hiring you knows all this - if you've already asked for them to match your current salary and they said "no", then there's not much really left to try (apart from what has already been suggested).
 
Is the job better? Will you prefer it more? Is it progression in your professional development? Can you survive on £1,000 less a year? Which after tax isn't really going to make much difference per month anyway... (though I guess it depends what tax bracket you're in and how much you're making).

Are there more pros than cons?

I'd still ask them to match.. however maybe suggest that during your probation they put you on the £1,000 inferior salary, and once completed your probation they increase it by £1,000? That's what happened to me and seemed sensible to start me off at a lower salary and increase it after the probationary period up to the salary I was expecting.

Often externally recruited people coming in at the same level are often paid slightly more to draw them in. I know a person that was recruited at my level and was earning £2,000 more roughly per year than me. Didn't bother me in the slightest I must say.
 
Sounds like he is trying it on. He is prepared to offer you the job yet isnt sure if you will work out? There arent too many jobs around that require more than one interview to get the job, you must have impressed enough to get it. So I dont see his reasoning.

Like the other poster said, you have to think about what this job offers other than just wages. Are the prospects for further earnings at this job better? Is travel better?

Having left uni last year, I went to 8 interviews for 5 jobs. Basically, for the 3 jobs that i got passed the 'first round' of interviewing, there was always a 'second round' (when it was usually just myself and 1-2 others). I cant imagine a company choosing a new employee from just meeting them for 30 minutes in an interview situation. The 2 other jobs i didnt make it to the second round for, but they both had further interviews .

However from the was you have written the quote above, it sounds like you meant to say "There arent too many jobs around that DONT require more than one interview to get the job, you must have impressed enough to get it", so i may just be supporting your point if that's the case :)
 
Don't think that's necessarily the case truffle.....every job i've had was based on only one interview. I guess its just horses for courses, i don't there is a set protocol per se.
When i was offered my previous job to this, it was quite a jump in salary from what i was on at the time. However i saw a chance and suggested that i take a slightly lesser salary than they actually offered, so i could prove to them my worth, then raise it to above the original offer after proving myself. They were impressed with that and agreed!

£1000/pa is less than £20/wk, are you not saving that in fuel due to being nearer your parents and partners family?
 
Don't think that's necessarily the case truffle.....every job i've had was based on only one interview. I guess its just horses for courses, i don't there is a set protocol per se.
When i was offered my previous job to this, it was quite a jump in salary from what i was on at the time. However i saw a chance and suggested that i take a slightly lesser salary than they actually offered, so i could prove to them my worth, then raise it to above the original offer after proving myself. They were impressed with that and agreed!

£1000/pa is less than £20/wk, are you not saving that in fuel due to being nearer your parents and partners family?

Not really as we don't go and visit all that often because we live so far away.
 
Shot yourself in the foot really not talking about it at the interview.

I just been offered a new job and they tried lowballing me by £3000!!! no chance matey.

It took 1 phone call to sort it out.
 
I guess i'll give him a ring back this afternoon then and ask him to either pay up or he loses me.

His choice I guess.
 
Having left uni last year, I went to 8 interviews for 5 jobs. Basically, for the 3 jobs that i got passed the 'first round' of interviewing, there was always a 'second round' (when it was usually just myself and 1-2 others). I cant imagine a company choosing a new employee from just meeting them for 30 minutes in an interview situation. The 2 other jobs i didnt make it to the second round for, but they both had further interviews .

However from the was you have written the quote above, it sounds like you meant to say "There arent too many jobs around that DONT require more than one interview to get the job, you must have impressed enough to get it", so i may just be supporting your point if that's the case :)

I would say theres multiple differences, the first being you were just out of uni(as maybe were many of the other applicants for the type of job being discussed). Its MUCH harder to predict how a uni leaver whose never worked will take to a real job, than someone who likely already has experience in the real world at the job in question. In your case, multiple interviews for them to compare and contrast and try to make the best decision on who will be the best worker, as opposed to who did the best at uni, two completely different things.

When you're interviewing people who have the experience and have done the same job before, well that question is essentially gone, with a good reference, or good understanding and being able to talk about what he does on a daily basis, you don't need the follow up interviews.

Likewise it would sound like your interviews had a decent number of people applying. Often you'll find 20 15 minute interviews to get a brief idea and narrow it down to 3-4 applicants who come back for a far more focused/indepth/critical interview wastes less time and becomes an easier choice than interviewing everyone for an hour and finding 10 people who for varying reasons would be perfect for the job.

For all we know the OP was the only one who applied, or the only qualified person, who knows. Basically a single interview is pretty standard, with multiple interviews being more common for uni leavers, and jobs with a huge number of applicants.

In regards to negotiating, you could just ask him brutally honestly, what you can do to get the extra grand, IF you really need it. Probation on lower cost, negotiate an review sooner than would be standard, so if they were thinking a review/expected pay rise was normally going to be every year, ask for the first 2 years to have them every 6 months with the implied intention that averaged out across those 2 years you'd end up with about what you'd expect staying in your current job for 2 years. That way you get the same money and they get to know you're worth the cash.

Obviously depends on the job, but maybe ask them for some kind of performance related bonus to make up the difference, so the harder and better you work for them, the more you receive.
 
Having left uni last year, I went to 8 interviews for 5 jobs. Basically, for the 3 jobs that i got passed the 'first round' of interviewing, there was always a 'second round' (when it was usually just myself and 1-2 others). I cant imagine a company choosing a new employee from just meeting them for 30 minutes in an interview situation. The 2 other jobs i didnt make it to the second round for, but they both had further interviews .

However from the was you have written the quote above, it sounds like you meant to say "There arent too many jobs around that DONT require more than one interview to get the job, you must have impressed enough to get it", so i may just be supporting your point if that's the case :)

Got my first 'career' job with just an informal half hour chat and my second job had two interviews which totalled about 3 hours. They use an external recruitment women in so it was quite intensive.
 
You're a daft git Neil. I've told you this many a times.

Take the job, just curb your spending a bit, in reality £1000 isn't that big a difference at all, if you are moving into a job with more prospects, in a cheaper area to live in teh country and closer to family and friends.

It's a no brainer for me.
 
You're a daft git Neil. I've told you this many a times.

Take the job, just curb your spending a bit, in reality £1000 isn't that big a difference at all, if you are moving into a job with more prospects, in a cheaper area to live in teh country and closer to family and friends.

It's a no brainer for me.

I liek spending though :D
 
If he's quibbling over £1k now it's not going to better after a year. If he's not sure he had the probationary period to assess your performance.
 
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