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New 3080 and suddenly problems
- Thread starter opethdisciple
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Yea ram.
Did you set any other voltages other than dram volts to get it to work?
VDDG, manual SOC voltage timings etc?
Yes it's high. But the cpu will never boost that high before it hits one of the pbo limits.
It's not the CPU that's the problem it was my ram overclock. I've toned it down to cl16 and so far it's all good.
But it makes me wonder why it worked before and now after installing 3080 it doesn't.
Heat?
But if that's the case what of ram sticks like the 8 Pack cl14 3600 ram that is 1.45v out of the box?
They gonna overheat too?
Case is a P400a and being winter a chilly ambient temperature as well.
I always run my case fans fill speed for max cooling.
I always run my case fans fill speed for max cooling.
Air
Switching to CL16 ram timings seems (finger crossed) to have solved it.
You know what it's like though when you tinker. I keep wanting to put it back to CL14 and adjust more voltages.
Previously I left my VDDG and SOC on auto (it was fine)
But it's interesting you mention that because adjusting VDDG was something I was thinking of trying.
Ryzen Master documentation even says "when overclocking ram VDDG and SOC should typically start at 1.1v)
Have a look at page 39.
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Bah... you now I have to try it.
I was running my ram CL14 at 1.47v though.
At CL16 mine are now 1.35v.
But I keep asking this question... If I am getting what we imagine is temperature related instability on my ram, then where does that leave sticks like the CL14 8 Pack stuff that is 1.45v out of the box?
I've seen only one kit out there on the internet which is similar timings that is at 1.40v every other kit is 1.45v plus.
I ran it at those settings for a year. Things changed only when I installed the 3080.
Yup, on my x370 I had to use 1.1v VDDG to get it to work.
When I bought my x570 I thought I had to use the same settings on my ram so set it to 1.1v on the VDDG. What was stable on x370 was no longer working on x570. Leaving VDDG on stock did the trick.
So that's the same experience as me.
Cheers
In my case I have been leaving the SOC on auto and just setting 1.47v dram.
Dunno what the default SOC is but I am tempted to try setting it to 1.1v and see if it behaves.
OK, well contrary to logic (if it was heat related) I pushed my ram to 1.5v and so far so good.
I played Watch Dogs Legion for 3hrs with no instability at all.
I played Watch Dogs Legion for 3hrs with no instability at all.
Right as an update to this.
Still experiencing issues.
My Watch Dogs Legion issues I 'fixed' by upping the dram voltage to 1.5v.
However getting freezes and crashes in Valhalla. Ask in the Valhalla thread and others say they get it too.
However also get freezes and crashes in Doom Eternal DLC 2 so now I am suspecting my overclock.
As previously stated, I was stable before the 3080 was installed using 1.47v dram for at least a year.
So now I am experimenting with SOC voltage in case it's the case that installing the 3080 has put more pressure on the memory controller perhaps?
It's not heat as my case is well ventilated and we are still experiencing winter conditions.
As for SOC I am gonna try 1.125v.
Still experiencing issues.
My Watch Dogs Legion issues I 'fixed' by upping the dram voltage to 1.5v.
However getting freezes and crashes in Valhalla. Ask in the Valhalla thread and others say they get it too.
However also get freezes and crashes in Doom Eternal DLC 2 so now I am suspecting my overclock.
As previously stated, I was stable before the 3080 was installed using 1.47v dram for at least a year.
So now I am experimenting with SOC voltage in case it's the case that installing the 3080 has put more pressure on the memory controller perhaps?
It's not heat as my case is well ventilated and we are still experiencing winter conditions.
As for SOC I am gonna try 1.125v.
If it is heat then this should cause the frequency of people with ram such as the 8 Pack 3600 CL14 stuff to start complaining of instability as well and at XMP too as it's 1.45v out the box..
You see the issue I have with blaming heat. Where does it leave the ram out there that comes out the box at 1.45v +?
I wonder if this is an issue with the FE rather than the AIB cards.
You see the issue I have with blaming heat. Where does it leave the ram out there that comes out the box at 1.45v +?
I wonder if this is an issue with the FE rather than the AIB cards.
OK, so yea dropping to CL16 timings and 1.35v seems to solve the issue.
So it's heat.
But this is strange all the same. During the initial reviews of the FE cards some of the big reviewers like Jayztwocents and GamersNexus et al tested the theory that the FE's blower design would heat up the ram and they concluded that this was not the case and that it was thermally efficient.
However as end users we are experiencing the opposite.
These cards heat up so much that they push ram in to thermally unstable territory!
And what about the people that buy ram such as the 8PackRipped stuff. It will be unstable at XMP with these cards unless you have active ram cooling.
Does it really matter? Not so much.. it's just annoying to have to downscale my ram due to GPU heat.
So it's heat.
But this is strange all the same. During the initial reviews of the FE cards some of the big reviewers like Jayztwocents and GamersNexus et al tested the theory that the FE's blower design would heat up the ram and they concluded that this was not the case and that it was thermally efficient.
However as end users we are experiencing the opposite.
These cards heat up so much that they push ram in to thermally unstable territory!
And what about the people that buy ram such as the 8PackRipped stuff. It will be unstable at XMP with these cards unless you have active ram cooling.
Does it really matter? Not so much.. it's just annoying to have to downscale my ram due to GPU heat.
I punched in the same primary timings on my ram at 1.45v and it still froze.
14 15 15 15 35 @ 1.45v
Remember this same ram prior to the 3080 was running the above and it could even run 14 15 14 14 28 @ 1.47v (with tight secondaries) which is what I ran it at for quite a while.
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Well actually, probably not a good test, because I know that my ram needs at least 1.47v for stability. So perhaps I should try again.