New Bike Time - KTM 1290 Superduke R Special Edition

unKle · 19 Oct 2016 at 10:47

Yep a decat with a short can is obnoxiously loud. With a decent sized tail pipe like the Akra and the baffle in it's just right.

If you really hate your neighbours (and ear drums) fit an Austin Racing GP1R

tom_e · 19 Oct 2016 at 10:49

unKle said:
Yep a decat with a short can is obnoxiously loud. With a decent sized tail pipe like the Akra and the baffle in it's just right.

If you really hate your neighbours (and ear drums) fit an Austin Racing GP1R

That's just a carbon fibre bean can!

Captain · 25 Oct 2016 at 22:32

Can you tell me how it was riding the cb1000r please? I've read they are pretty gutless unless you are sitting high in the rev range? I want that instant torque that throws you to the back of the seat, do you get that?

TallPaul_S · 25 Oct 2016 at 23:00

Clov!s said:
Can you tell me how it was riding the cb1000r please? I've read they are pretty gutless unless you are sitting high in the rev range? I want that instant torque that throws you to the back of the seat, do you get that?

You ain't gonna get that with an IL4, they're all about linear power. You want a nice big thumping v-twin for that sort of instant torque.

The_Abyss · 25 Oct 2016 at 23:06

In general, yes but (I know we've had this conversation before) there are notable exceptions. The IL4 in the S1000R and XR delivers fantastic pick up across the whole rev range in any gear. A bug thumping v-twin doesn't guarantee usable torque either - try fully opening the throttle in 6th gear on a Multistrada between 40 and 50 mph and you'll feel like you're riding over rumble strips!

Craig321 · 25 Oct 2016 at 23:20

Clov!s said:
Can you tell me how it was riding the cb1000r please? I've read they are pretty gutless unless you are sitting high in the rev range? I want that instant torque that throws you to the back of the seat, do you get that?

Get something like the Speed Triple or Superduke

AndyCr15 · 26 Oct 2016 at 08:18

Personally I think there's buckets of low down torque on the CB1000R. The main reason I didn't buy a Ducati 899 was my CB made it feel slow as the Ducati didn't have that instant power.

Test ride one, is the best way to see.

Sin_Chase · 31 Oct 2016 at 06:00

Kreeeee said:
Bring it to the alps next year!

(I want to see it )

Depending on what KTM announce in Milan this upcoming week I might be SORELY tempted by a new '17 :eek:

Dogbreath · 31 Oct 2016 at 10:05

The_Abyss said:
A bug thumping v-twin doesn't guarantee usable torque either - try fully opening the throttle in 6th gear on a Multistrada between 40 and 50 mph and you'll feel like you're riding over rumble strips!

Full throttle at low RPM in a the tallest gear ratio isn't going to yield the best results from any bike e.g. the S1000R won't be terribly enthusiastic to accelerate from 40mph in 6th, so does that mean it doesn't have usable torque?

All bikes need to be ridden appropriately to get the best performance from them. In the case of V twins, and especially singles, laboring the engine at low RPM is just going to result in lots of transmission snatch.

Kreeeee · 31 Oct 2016 at 10:10

Sin_Chase said:
Depending on what KTM announce in Milan this upcoming week I might be SORELY tempted by a new '17

Or get a stellar deal on a nearly new 2016 model

Sin_Chase · 31 Oct 2016 at 11:01

Kreeeee said:
Or get a stellar deal on a nearly new 2016 model

Tempting, but would be losing a lot of electronic goodies to swap. Why I am somewhat curious about the see what the refresh brings.

The_Abyss · 31 Oct 2016 at 14:28

Dogbreath said:
Full throttle at low RPM in a the tallest gear ratio isn't going to yield the best results from any bike e.g. the S1000R won't be terribly enthusiastic to accelerate from 40mph in 6th, so does that mean it doesn't have usable torque?

All bikes need to be ridden appropriately to get the best performance from them. In the case of V twins, and especially singles, laboring the engine at low RPM is just going to result in lots of transmission snatch.

I don't disagree at all. I just wanted to dispel the v twin myth that torque begins and ends with that type of engine.

Kreeeee · 31 Oct 2016 at 14:37

Yeah my V4 has gobs of torque

AndyCr15 · 17 Nov 2016 at 08:13

Rear pegs have come off and new exhaust has gone on, AustinRacing -

Freeman · 17 Nov 2016 at 08:15

Looks sick!

Bit annoyed though....you didn't post a video of it!!!!!!!!!!

AndyCr15 · 17 Nov 2016 at 08:27

Fair point!

To be fair, the Akro sounded pretty good with the baffle out, but the AR has the edge I feel. A little deeper. A little beefier.

Freeman · 17 Nov 2016 at 09:09

I like that. Not too obnoxious and by the sounds of it will sound ridiculous at higher revs.

Kreeeee · 17 Nov 2016 at 11:39

Such a great looking bike. It still sounds pretty neutered even with that exhaust though. Is the video representative of the actual sound?

TallPaul_S · 17 Nov 2016 at 12:05

Hasn't it still got the big CAT box? Most of the silencing will be in that, rather than the end can, like most modern bikes.

If it had a decat pipe then it would be stupidly loud.

AndyCr15 · 17 Nov 2016 at 12:19

Yeah, it still has it's cat. I did have someone on the SuperDuke forum offering me a good price on pretty much the same exhaust but with the straight through. I was saying I was concerned it would be too loud, asked the seller why it's not fitted to his bike... 'the Mrs said it was too loud'...

Kreeeee said:
Such a great looking bike. It still sounds pretty neutered even with that exhaust though. Is the video representative of the actual sound?

Thanks. As above though, it's at a reasonable level I think. I don't think you can ever really recreate the real sound on a phone video though.