Caporegime
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really, note to self change window cleaners.......
new focus st
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really, note to self change window cleaners.......
The Estate version does look good, makes the back end look more complete. It's also very mondeo-esque from some angles (not a bad thing).
It's disappointing that if you don't get the ST3 you don't get xenons and you get crappy reflector headlights. Even the fiesta which has no xenon option comes with projectors on the higher trims and costs almost half as much as the new focus st. All cars should have projectors these days.
It's disappointing that if you don't get the ST3 you don't get xenons and you get crappy reflector headlights. Even the fiesta which has no xenon option comes with projectors on the higher trims and costs almost half as much as the new focus st. All cars should have projectors these days.
[TW]Fox;22529213 said:
Perhaps, but the RS would likely work out the cheaper of the two over say a 2 year ownership period due to the extra depreciation of the ST down to it being new.
I think i'd prefer the drama of the RS, and i also prefer the old shape, but the new car looks good too & with 250hp it should be plenty quick too
I can only echo those who would rather have a mk2 FRS! Objectively the new ST makes more sense, more toys, more modern, better economy, more practical....but the RS is more characterful, has much more road presence, and just seems more special.
The 5 pot sound will be missed too but apparently the 2.0 ecoboost sounds pretty good in ST guise as well (yes there is some deliberate engineering to pipe sound into the cabin but the old ST and RS had bits to tune the sound entering the cabin as well...).
The 5 pot sound will be missed too but apparently the 2.0 ecoboost sounds pretty good in ST guise as well (yes there is some deliberate engineering to pipe sound into the cabin but the old ST and RS had bits to tune the sound entering the cabin as well...).
You could spend quite a bit of cash
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Now go and spec up a Golf GTi with the same level of equipment
Then consider the Focus is much quicker and 40bhp up
I was 'offered' an 18 month old Golf GTi (about 4 months ago) with similar spec to what you've added to the Focus ST for £28k!
Looks wise the new ST is growing on me. I will never accept it due the rear, it's pretty awful, and the centre exhaust is just wrong. The only thing that bugs me, is the lower tax band and the increased economy. Yet just as quick as my MK2 ST.
I still prefer my ST. The new ST doesn't come in 3 door, and is less of a drivers car, the focus has always been renowned for it's driving experience and handling. This is a backwards step for me. Too much American influence. The interior at glance does seem to be a lot nicer than my ST however.
I still prefer my ST. The new ST doesn't come in 3 door, and is less of a drivers car, the focus has always been renowned for it's driving experience and handling. This is a backwards step for me. Too much American influence. The interior at glance does seem to be a lot nicer than my ST however.
You sure about that? Specifying one on the website is £31k and I only added metallic paint
Now it's been a while since I had a maths lesson but that's £6k more than the top spec ST! £10k more than the entry level ST
the top spec st is 26.5
26.5 plus 2.5
is 29k
I didnt realise it was a little more than that but the point is still there ( particularly when youn see the pictures of specced st's above).
They arent exactly horses for courses are they. There are fundemental differences that make the bmw more "worth" the money other than brand
If I had £30K for a hot hatch i'd have the M135i too.
Same here.
Sitting in the sun in my back garden at the moment so havnt checked, but I reckon despite the BMW's superior performance that fuel economy and c02 isn't compromised.
The BMW will hold its value a lot better too.
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This. Pretty good value for a new car tbh.
Same goes for the focus too, surely. It would have probably depreciated more too, making it better value.
Comparing old against new is kinda pointless.
But you can't have a BMW without Nav (according to Fox) so that makes the 1 series £33k. £6k more than the top spec ST.
Not really comparable
Popped into Dagenham Ford in Edgeware today, looked at the new B-max and a ST2. Both cars look pretty nice, just need to work out how sensible I want to be. The set up for the driver in the ST is particularly nice, although some might find it a bit claustrophobic.
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