Living Room with in-wall 7.1.4 and PJ

hornetstinger · 25 Jul 2017 at 14:03

dancook said:
Well looks like I will have to live with a crappy setup, we are not having carpet.

Means ARC will be correcting the room more than ideally it should (ie less) And room correction cannot magically fix a suboptimal.

hornetstinger · 25 Jul 2017 at 14:05

dancook said:
My setup costs a lot less than you think, I'm not spending that much!

There are also the 1800 and 2000 range of amplifiers. The 3 channel ATI 1803 is good value. If you want fully balanced design, and other things like bigger PSU and more cap storage per channel (and power) then go for 2000,3000, 4000 or 7000.

dancook · 25 Jul 2017 at 14:09

hornetstinger said:
Means ARC will be correcting the room more than ideally it should (ie less) And room correction cannot magically fix a suboptimal.

I have to compromise this is not a dedicated cinema room. I will not be able to make it optimal.

I feel it will be better than having my old setup bunched up 5.1 with a 10 year old 40 Inch TV

Phate · 25 Jul 2017 at 14:13

Looks like its going to be an awesome setup. 7.1.4 - very nice indeed! Although I imagine there is not much content which takes full advantage of this? Still good to have though

dancook · 25 Jul 2017 at 14:14

Phate said:
Looks like its going to be an awesome setup. 7.1.4 - very nice indeed! Although I imagine there is not much content which takes full advantage of this? Still good to have though

Well once setup I plan to leave it there for a good decade

thanks

Phate · 25 Jul 2017 at 14:39

dancook said:
Well once setup I plan to leave it there for a good decade thanks

Very nice. Keep posting updates please!

dancook · 25 Jul 2017 at 14:44

So more on this compromise, my wife finally agreed to in-wall coloured speakers and a projection screen that retracts into the ceiling..

I'm lucky I got away with a black JVC x9500 projector mounted to the ceiling, that thing is big.. and we're also painting the walls and ceiling in a blue slate colour, so whilst not the darkest, it's better than having a white ceiling..

The bifold doors have built in blinds, which will help to cut down light, but we won't be having anything like 'black roller blinds' I saw elsewhere, it needs to look like a lounge when the screen is up.

Phate said:
Very nice. Keep posting updates please!

Cheers, I will do..

signs · 25 Jul 2017 at 15:39

nice projector , fit mine to the ceiling using one of these ..

http://www.allmetalparts.co.uk/52-19-500mm-deep-stackable-rack-cabinet-cases

you could paint it to appease the wife , talking of which consider carpet

hornetstinger · 25 Jul 2017 at 15:42

dancook said:
So more on this compromise, my wife finally agreed to in-wall coloured speakers and a projection screen that retracts into the ceiling..

I'm lucky I got away with a black JVC x9500 projector mounted to the ceiling, that thing is big.. and we're also painting the walls and ceiling in a blue slate colour, so whilst not the darkest, it's better than having a white ceiling..

The bifold doors have built in blinds, which will help to cut down light, but we won't be having anything like 'black roller blinds' I saw elsewhere, it needs to look like a lounge when the screen is up.

Cheers, I will do..

I would recommend speakers that don't stick out like a sore thumb. If the speakers are white I'd put on the black grilles. To get what I'm saying, get three pieces of white paper and place them next to and under your TV and watch a movie. The white paper will be incredibly distracting.

I'm not sure what colour is best for walls in a home cinema room as I never looked into that.

dancook · 25 Jul 2017 at 16:00

Only yesterday i placed an order for a custom made AV Rack, and here's how it would have fit

However that leaves no room for the future possibility of a power amplifier, fortunately I've been able to modify the order so I'll have an even deeper shelf at the bottom

dancook · 25 Jul 2017 at 16:02

hornetstinger said:
I would recommend speakers that don't stick out like a sore thumb. If the speakers are white I'd put on the black grilles. To get what I'm saying, get three pieces of white paper and place them next to and under your TV and watch a movie. The white paper will be incredibly distracting.

I'm not sure what colour is best for walls in a home cinema room as I never looked into that.

As mentioned,

The speakers come with metal grills, we will paint them the same as the walls, they should not stick out

dancook · 25 Jul 2017 at 16:05

signs said:
nice projector , fit mine to the ceiling using one of these ..

http://www.allmetalparts.co.uk/52-19-500mm-deep-stackable-rack-cabinet-cases

you could paint it to appease the wife , talking of which consider carpet

I have bought one of these
https://www.idealav.co.uk/product/techniq-projector-mount-jvc-dla-x500-700-900-series-projectors/

We will have large rugs, not 100% coverage like carpet, but another compromise

signs · 25 Jul 2017 at 16:29

dancook said:
I have bought one of these
https://www.idealav.co.uk/product/techniq-projector-mount-jvc-dla-x500-700-900-series-projectors/

We will have large rugs, not 100% coverage like carpet, but another compromise

Alan at Ideal AV is a great bloke

Mr_Sukebe · 25 Jul 2017 at 16:35

Looks like a good plan so far.
You might also wish to consider acoustic panels on the walls. Given that you're starting from scratch, you might be able to use something instead of what you're already planning for the walls. I met a chap a couple of years ago who'd done it himself. Not sure what he used, but it clearly worked well, and once painted, looked just like a normal wall.
If the amp you are planning to use doesn't have room correction, that's also worth considering, as it can be extremely useful in the right place.
As a final point, you're planned audio rack is looking a bit light on space. Given that you'll be starting with an amp and BD player, potentially then adding additional power amps and other sources, might be worth over-specifying it. As it's a new build, also worth considering given the audio components a dedicated electrical ring, to reduce noise from other electrical items nearby.

dancook · 25 Jul 2017 at 16:41

Mr_Sukebe said:
Looks like a good plan so far.
You might also wish to consider acoustic panels on the walls. Given that you're starting from scratch, you might be able to use something instead of what you're already planning for the walls. I met a chap a couple of years ago who'd done it himself. Not sure what he used, but it clearly worked well, and once painted, looked just like a normal wall.
If the amp you are planning to use doesn't have room correction, that's also worth considering, as it can be extremely useful in the right place.
As a final point, you're planned audio rack is looking a bit light on space. Given that you'll be starting with an amp and BD player, potentially then adding additional power amps and other sources, might be worth over-specifying it. As it's a new build, also worth considering given the audio components a dedicated electrical ring, to reduce noise from other electrical items nearby.

We already have plans for framed art on the walls, not sure my wife will go for acoustic panels, but I see they can be arty...I'll see if anything appeals.

It has ARC, anthem room correction - I also have an anti-mode for the subwoofer if needed.

There's room to stack some items on top of each other and my PC desk is right next to it and I can hide stuff there perhaps!

but worst comes to worst I can put the AV rack elsewhere and use it as a nice shelving unit, and get something else.

I will ask the electrician about the dedicated ring, it's only a few feet from the fusebox

Mr_Sukebe · 25 Jul 2017 at 18:06

I had my electrician add in an additional ring whilst running a new one in for my conservatory. Unsurprisingly he thought it was pointless. As he was already putting one in for the lights, the additional cost for the extra was minimal. Probably easier to just ask him to do it, rather than debate the logic of why.

Have to say, highly envious on the JVC9500. I've been using a HD550 for close on 8 years now. Still gives a great picture, so haven't really felt the desire to upgrade. For all that, I'd assume the 9500 will almost certainly be a good step up.

hornetstinger · 25 Jul 2017 at 19:51

If you do plan to use the antimode (I have a 8033 Cinema) as well as Anthem ARC you want to run the antimode correction first, then run ARC.

dancook · 25 Jul 2017 at 22:01

Mr_Sukebe said:
I had my electrician add in an additional ring whilst running a new one in for my conservatory. Unsurprisingly he thought it was pointless. As he was already putting one in for the lights, the additional cost for the extra was minimal. Probably easier to just ask him to do it, rather than debate the logic of why.

Have to say, highly envious on the JVC9500. I've been using a HD550 for close on 8 years now. Still gives a great picture, so haven't really felt the desire to upgrade. For all that, I'd assume the 9500 will almost certainly be a good step up.

Been putting a lot of hours into the PJ already, works pretty well during the day in the dining room with white walls and untamed ambient light coming from hallway and kitchen

looking foward to settings it up properly on the big screen

this is with a relatively short throw and ~80inch wide screen, going up to 120inch wide and 7m+ throw

dancook · 25 Jul 2017 at 22:09

hornetstinger said:
If you do plan to use the antimode (I have a 8033 Cinema) as well as Anthem ARC you want to run the antimode correction first, then run ARC.

I thought that might be the case, thanks

dancook · 15 Sep 2017 at 17:23

A few progress shots, you can read more here https://cookhousestory.wordpress.com/ or just ask

Living Room with in-wall 7.1.4 and PJ

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