New Honda Civic.

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Just been browsing wiki for info on old cars, when i started reading about the various iterations of the Civic, I was shocked to read that whilst we get the inferior rear torsion beam setup, our american and japanese cousins get the better double wishbone setup, now i can understand the japs getting a decent setup, but do we not and the yanks do, we have always been a nation that has wanted to really drive the motor car, whereas the yanks generally want to be driven.

I dont get it, i really dont? even the new type r seems to have been softened up a touch too, we always seem to get get rough end of the deal :(
 
What's wrong with a torsion bar rear end? It allows them to package the car a bit better and gain some boot space compared with a coil spring setup, it's more durable than a coil spring setup, the only real downside is that a compromise has to be made between handling and ride quality.
 
The_One said:
Whats wrong with having a torsion bar setup?

Some of the best fwd handling cars have them ala 205 gti and 106 gti ;)
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Dont forget the 306 either, the torsion beam setup doesnt work for the UKDM imo, the frogs have been playing with the setup for donkeys so they know how to do it, Honda imo dont have that good a handling setup imo with the new civic.
 
wohoo said:
Honda imo dont have that good a handling setup imo with the new civic.
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Probably because they were aiming on the side of ride quality rather than all-out cornering ability.

As I said in my other post, they'll have gone the torsion bar route for a reason - packaging. All well and good making a hatchback with coil sprung suspension at each corner, but if you can't fit any shopping in the boot then it becomes just a touch useless. The bodyshell that the US and Jap markets get allows them to fit coil springs and still retain something resembling a boot.
 
JRS said:
Probably because they were aiming on the side of ride quality rather than all-out cornering ability.

As I said in my other post, they'll have gone the torsion bar route for a reason - packaging. All well and good making a hatchback with coil sprung suspension at each corner, but if you can't fit any shopping in the boot then it becomes just a touch useless. The bodyshell that the US and Jap markets get allows them to fit coil springs and still retain something resembling a boot.
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Makes sense, i suppose its cheaper to manufacture and build too, i think we are little more value oriented than the japs and yanks :(
 
wohoo said:
Makes sense, i suppose its cheaper to manufacture and build too
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Possibly. Don't think they'd have done it for that reason though, the difference would more than likely be minimal. Plus, if they had taken leave of their senses and fitted coil springs it might have been cheaper as they'd already designed the car once that way.

That said, I'm not all that sure just how much of the UK/Euro Civic is the same as the US/JDM/rest of world one. There might not be all that much.
 
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