New M3 Test from M5Board
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A straight line drag race then?
That certainly tells you a lot about the cars. Which is actually faster round the track?
I've got to say, while I'm a fan of the M series cars the BMW that impresses me most at the moment is the 123d. What a fantastic engine! BMW's future cars will be amazing if they can continue that kind of performance with such low emmissions.
That certainly tells you a lot about the cars. Which is actually faster round the track?
I've got to say, while I'm a fan of the M series cars the BMW that impresses me most at the moment is the 123d. What a fantastic engine! BMW's future cars will be amazing if they can continue that kind of performance with such low emmissions.
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All the M5/GTBoards.com comparisons are drags aren't they? A mix of rolling and standing starts.
Yeah, very impressive - e46 330d performance with a smaller engine and better economy.
Surely this is a bit of a stupid comparison
on one hand you have a 4 door saloon which weighs the thick end of ~1700kg and on the other hand you have a 2 door coupe weighing nearly 200kg less and both cars have similar power its obvious the beamer will be faster
I think it would be much fairer to compare the new M3 saloon to the RS4 as both should have similar power levels and should weigh roughly the same
on one hand you have a 4 door saloon which weighs the thick end of ~1700kg and on the other hand you have a 2 door coupe weighing nearly 200kg less and both cars have similar power its obvious the beamer will be faster
I think it would be much fairer to compare the new M3 saloon to the RS4 as both should have similar power levels and should weigh roughly the same
Yeah, there will be a new M3 saloon. Was also done in the past for the e36 M3 but didn't sell that well, so was dropped for the e46 M3 which came in Coupe and Cabrio only.
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That M3 does look great, and I love the fact it's got a V8, but my heart & head still chooses the RS4.
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What I found surprising is how the BMW span its wheels when engaging 2nd gear and as such gave the Audi quite an advantage.
Now I've driven and owned some reasonably powerful RWD drive cars and I've not had that kind of issue.
In the CSL I can either use LC for a dramatic great looking off the marks drag race whilst still been very quick. Or I've found an alternative way which results in very similar performance but with none of the off the line drama and a lot more civilised. Irrelevant of which way I do it 2nd gear engages perfect everytime and all I get is a chirp of the tyres at the most and certainly not wheel spin to that extent.
In the Mustang which has far more BHP and torque than the new M3 could ever hope for it too had no issues, dropping into 2nd would give a real nice chirp or a little spin from the wheels but it just got down and went, fair enough the rears were really wide.
So it shocks me that the M3 lost so much traction when engaging 2nd, either driver or something else a miss.
Still having driven the RS4 too it is a damn easy car to launch, it requires no revs you literally just stamp the throttle and it shoots off with no drama at all. So its 0-30mph is pretty untouchable, but due to its weight and 4WD its on the roll performance past 30mph is nothing staggering. 4WD gives good advantage of the mark and in the wet, but it actually hurts on the roll performance due to extra weight and more transmission losses.
A similar test was done with an RS4 against a CSL with the result been the CSL leaving the RS4 quite a bit quicker than the new M3 did in that video, but I believe it was the heavier estate RS4 which is 50kg heavier than the Saloon.
However if I had a choice of new RS4 or new M3 then I'd struggle as the RS4 was sheer quality and nice to drive. Having not driven the new M3 makes it hard too choose but I preferre the M3's looks but the RS4's interior is better, so would have to let the drive make the decision.
What I found surprising is how the BMW span its wheels when engaging 2nd gear and as such gave the Audi quite an advantage.
Now I've driven and owned some reasonably powerful RWD drive cars and I've not had that kind of issue.
In the CSL I can either use LC for a dramatic great looking off the marks drag race whilst still been very quick. Or I've found an alternative way which results in very similar performance but with none of the off the line drama and a lot more civilised. Irrelevant of which way I do it 2nd gear engages perfect everytime and all I get is a chirp of the tyres at the most and certainly not wheel spin to that extent.
In the Mustang which has far more BHP and torque than the new M3 could ever hope for it too had no issues, dropping into 2nd would give a real nice chirp or a little spin from the wheels but it just got down and went, fair enough the rears were really wide.
So it shocks me that the M3 lost so much traction when engaging 2nd, either driver or something else a miss.
Still having driven the RS4 too it is a damn easy car to launch, it requires no revs you literally just stamp the throttle and it shoots off with no drama at all. So its 0-30mph is pretty untouchable, but due to its weight and 4WD its on the roll performance past 30mph is nothing staggering. 4WD gives good advantage of the mark and in the wet, but it actually hurts on the roll performance due to extra weight and more transmission losses.
A similar test was done with an RS4 against a CSL with the result been the CSL leaving the RS4 quite a bit quicker than the new M3 did in that video, but I believe it was the heavier estate RS4 which is 50kg heavier than the Saloon.
However if I had a choice of new RS4 or new M3 then I'd struggle as the RS4 was sheer quality and nice to drive. Having not driven the new M3 makes it hard too choose but I preferre the M3's looks but the RS4's interior is better, so would have to let the drive make the decision.
Some real idiots on that forum...
Spie posts there you know.
As do I - Ahh! I see where you've found the idiot!
