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Some New Items (Changed) ONLY for Photography folks. BUT if you think I need something changing Please say So. The 1660 graphics is Good for my Photography as the1050Ti will stay in this PC.

1x MSI Pro Z690 A Wi-Fi DDR4 £219:99
1x Intel Core i7 12700KF 3.60KHz Alder Lake Socket LGA 1700 PCU £379:99
RAM-Patriot Viper Steel 32GB (2x16gb) DDR4 PC 4-25600C16 3200MHz £109:99
1X Palit GeForce GTX 1660 StormX 6144MB GDDR5 Graphics Card £199:99
1x Corsair RM Series RM 850W 80+ Gold Modular PSU 9020196_UK SKU:CA-24R-CS £77:99
1x PHanteks Eclipse P500 Air ATX Case Tempered Glass DRGB White Glacier £134:99
Jonsbo Angel Eyes TW1-360 RGB High Performance CPU Water Cooler RGB 360mm £89:99
WD Blue SN 570 1TB SSD NVME M2.2280 PCIe Gen 3 SSD £86:99
Phanteks SK 1400mm Black DRGB PWM Fan Triple Pack £39:99 + 1 more od same at £14:99 = £54:98

TOTAL:--£1,354:87p If my Maths is correct. If I get OCUK to build it for me then I have to add about £200 to this making it £1554:87.
OR-I could build it myself with a little help as my Eyesight is not as good as it used to be.

I Shall now leave it Up to You lot to see if there should be any changes. If You Think I should Stick with my Original Components PLEASE do say so.. THANK YOU for Putting Up with me.
No idea on the warranty on that Jonsbo aio you've chosen there, couldn't see it listed. I'd check that..if it's a 1 or 2 year warranty, I'd bin it and choose something else..... arctic freezer II which comes with a 6 year, Lian li galahad 5yrs warranty, corsair 5yrs, nzxt 6yrs, phanteks glacier 6yrs, EK 5 yrs...plenty of choice


Below is technotice talking about 12th gen...he makes vids for creators, and talks about k, non k, kf versions in here...might make you choosing a little easier...personally would be k version for me out of k/kf
 
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No idea on the warranty on that Jonsbo aio you've chosen there, couldn't see it listed. I'd check that..if it's a 1 or 2 year warranty, I'd bin it and choose something else..... arctic freezer II which comes with a 6 year, Lian li galahad 5yrs warranty, corsair 5yrs, nzxt 6yrs, phanteks glacier 6yrs, EK 5 yrs...plenty of choice


Below is technotice talking about 12th gen...he makes vids for creators, and talks about k, non k, kf versions in here...might make you choosing a little easier...personally would be k version for me out of k/kf
MANY THANKS Craig_d1: I shall have a Good look at that Video. Funnily enough I was thinking the same anout that Jonsbo. Will decide on that Cooler soon.After listening to that Utube I'll definitely go for the i7-12700K then. Cheers
 
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I'm a long way from you. I in Swansea. Thank You for offering. Very Kind of you.

No problem, offer still stands, could always take a train down for the day, good excuse to get to Wales and have a mooch around when I am done. I also dabble in photography, so could take some shots while I am there. :)
 
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No problem, offer still stands, could always take a train down for the day, good excuse to get to Wales and have a mooch around when I am done. I also dabble in photography, so could take some shots while I am there. :)
Thanks Journey...Not quite buying yet. Just making sure I have got the Correct Parts and that Nothing clashes with the Motherboard...Just have to choose the correct Water pump now is all. Have a Good Weekend.
 
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First Off-Thank You for All the Help--Appreciated Lots. Too Summarise a bit. BUT, Please tell me which you think is appropriate or Better. NO gaming. FOR Photography.

MSI Pro Z690 A Wi-Fi DDR4 3x PCI-e16 4x M2 + 6SATA £219:99 OR (do I really need the Wi-Fi as I got it in my Virgin Router ??? and buy this instead
MSI Pro Z690 A DDR4 ATX Mobo £169:99 ??

Intel Core i7-12700K 3.60KHx (Alder Lake) Socket LGA 1700PCU £389:99

Now the RAM---Patriot Viper Steel 32GB (2x16gb dual ram) DDR4 Pc-25600C16 3200MHz RVS432G320C6K £109:99 OR
Corsair Vengence RGB Pro 32GB MA Ryzen tuned £149:99 also which is better C16 or C18.?? Are these Low Profile?? Do I need Low profile???

Corsair RM series RM850W 80+ Gold Modular psu £77:99

Crucial M2 1TB or a WD Blue ??

I might pay OCUK to install it all along with Windows 10 PRO or have a read and find out how to put on a USB stick then install myself. Seeing as this PC will not have a DVD/RW on board.

Take out my Zotac 1050Ti from this PC and install into this New lot Until prices fall. Install my OLD MSI N650 1GD5/OCV1 back into this PC. It Worked Well for photoshop before. ???

1x Phanteks Eclipse P500 Air ATX Case Tempered Glass DRGB White Glacier Tower.

I'm Not sure (not got a clue) if I should buy an CPU Air Cooler or a Arctic Liquid Freezer II. Would I need to buy some kind of Mounting for it?? OR If you know of one better with the mounting kit that costs less PLEASE do Tell. Are these Liquid Coolers Safe inside the PC Tower Case. ???
PLUS I will need extra Fans that work Good but NOT Pricey. I have not worked out the full price as I got a Bad Headache at moment. So If someone could be so kind to do that for me I will be Very Grateful. THANK YOU.
 
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You need something to connect to the router, so your options are usually:
  1. Motherboard wifi
  2. USB dongle wifi
  3. PCI-E card wifi
The price difference makes an internal wireless card better value, in my opinion, but that depends if you have enough space on the board to use one and it won't interfere with the graphics card.

Clearance on the RAM depends on the cooler, with an air cooler it is unlikely to be a problem with a full-size ATX board, but it depends how big it is. If you do have issues it tends to be with the first slot, closest to the CPU, which may or may not be used (it's rarely filled with 2 dimms). With a liquid cooler, very unlikely you'll need any additional clearance.

Just try the UHD 770 before you do anything with the graphics is my suggestion.
 
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You need something to connect to the router, so your options are usually:
  1. Motherboard wifi
  2. USB dongle wifi
  3. PCI-E card wifi
The price difference makes an internal wireless card better value, in my opinion, but that depends if you have enough space on the board to use one and it won't interfere with the graphics card.

Clearance on the RAM depends on the cooler, with an air cooler it is unlikely to be a problem with a full-size ATX board, but it depends how big it is. If you do have issues it tends to be with the first slot, closest to the CPU, which may or may not be used (it's rarely filled with 2 dimms). With a liquid cooler, very unlikely you'll need any additional clearance.

Just try the UHD 770 before you do anything with the graphics is my suggestion.
Thank You Tetras--I'll stick with the MSI board then. I'll try out the Onboard Graphics UHD 770 first before doing anything else.
So a WaterCooler might be best as well then. I hate the RAM Slots being covered up even if not in use.
 
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First Off-Thank You for All the Help--Appreciated Lots. Too Summarise a bit. BUT, Please tell me which you think is appropriate or Better. NO gaming. FOR Photography.

MSI Pro Z690 A Wi-Fi DDR4 3x PCI-e16 4x M2 + 6SATA £219:99 OR (do I really need the Wi-Fi as I got it in my Virgin Router ??? and buy this instead
MSI Pro Z690 A DDR4 ATX Mobo £169:99 ??

Intel Core i7-12700K 3.60KHx (Alder Lake) Socket LGA 1700PCU £389:99

Now the RAM---Patriot Viper Steel 32GB (2x16gb dual ram) DDR4 Pc-25600C16 3200MHz RVS432G320C6K £109:99 OR
Corsair Vengence RGB Pro 32GB MA Ryzen tuned £149:99 also which is better C16 or C18.?? Are these Low Profile?? Do I need Low profile???

Corsair RM series RM850W 80+ Gold Modular psu £77:99

Crucial M2 1TB or a WD Blue ??

I might pay OCUK to install it all along with Windows 10 PRO or have a read and find out how to put on a USB stick then install myself. Seeing as this PC will not have a DVD/RW on board.

Take out my Zotac 1050Ti from this PC and install into this New lot Until prices fall. Install my OLD MSI N650 1GD5/OCV1 back into this PC. It Worked Well for photoshop before. ???

1x Phanteks Eclipse P500 Air ATX Case Tempered Glass DRGB White Glacier Tower.

I'm Not sure (not got a clue) if I should buy an CPU Air Cooler or a Arctic Liquid Freezer II. Would I need to buy some kind of Mounting for it?? OR If you know of one better with the mounting kit that costs less PLEASE do Tell. Are these Liquid Coolers Safe inside the PC Tower Case. ???
PLUS I will need extra Fans that work Good but NOT Pricey. I have not worked out the full price as I got a Bad Headache at moment. So If someone could be so kind to do that for me I will be Very Grateful. THANK YOU.
Mobo..one with wifi, 1 without..with you can get the wifi version £199..£220 too much...as you're not gaming/overclocking etc think the MSI B660 tomahawk for £189 would suit better as best b660 really and has everything you want
powerful cpu..spot on
3200C16 v 3600C18...will be minimal difference for your application, esp as not gaming and intel cpu not as sensitive as amd..I'd go cheaper, esp as you said you weren't bothered by RGB. C16 is faster than C18 but 3600 is faster than 3200, so they balance out to a degree..you can get Vengeance rgb RT 3600C16 for £145 if you look, but not at OCuk.
If you can get a RM850 psu for £77.99 get it..take it that's not OCuk..it's £119
Crucial P2(you put m2) has 300 TBW endurance, so 300 tb can be written to it before it fails on av. The WD Blue, if the SN570 has 600 TBW, so double endurance...I'd get that out of those two..if you're talkng Crucial P5P on other hand, fast and gen4, but that's more expensive
Arctic freezer 2 should come with mounting kit for socket 1700, or you can phone them, send proof of purchase and they will send you fittings for free. Shouldn't be an issue with RAM as the pipes going to head go in vertically, not at the side, so they shouldn't interfere with RAM
p500a comes with 3 front fans, plus 3 for rad..think that s/b ok
As @Tetras says, try pc before installing gpu..think will be fine
 
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I keep Swapping & Changing, Sorry on this but I must be CERTAIN I buying the Correct Components that will work perfectly. So here goes.
Someone mentioned the MSI Mag B660 Tomahawk WiFi It is SOLD OUT.
Best if I stick with this one I think.

MSI Pro Z690 A Wifi £219:99

i7-12700K CPU Alder Lake £389:99

What do you think of this Gaming Case---MSI MP6 Gungir II cr Mid Tower Case with a MSI MP6 A1000W PSU £219:95
instead of the Phanteks case & Corsair 850W psu How Good is that 1000w psu with the tower???

RAM-Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3600MHz Cas 18 £139:99

Crucial P2 CT1000 P255D8 1TB PCIe M2 hard drive £70:98

Arctic Liquid FreezerII High performance CPU Water Cooler 240mm £79:99

Some extra Fans but which I don't know. Maybe the Phanteks SK 140mm Black DRGB PWM Fan Triple pack @ £54:98

Total---£1,175:87 to self build. Or Pay OCUK to build it for me for that extra £200 which comes to £1,375:87p

"Please, Please Speck me the ones you think is better at around the above prices or lower if you think there is Better than the above"

I have left the OS Win 10 out at the moment as I'm trying how to suss out putting it on a USB pen drive. THANKS.
 
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I keep Swapping & Changing, Sorry on this but I must be CERTAIN I buying the Correct Components that will work perfectly. So here goes.
Someone mentioned the MSI Mag B660 Tomahawk WiFi It is SOLD OUT.
Best if I stick with this one I think.

MSI Pro Z690 A Wifi £219:99

i7-12700K CPU Alder Lake £389:99

What do you think of this Gaming Case---MSI MP6 Gungir II cr Mid Tower Case with a MSI MP6 A1000W PSU £219:95
instead of the Phanteks case & Corsair 850W psu How Good is that 1000w psu with the tower???

RAM-Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3600MHz Cas 18 £139:99

Crucial P2 CT1000 P255D8 1TB PCIe M2 hard drive £70:98

Arctic Liquid FreezerII High performance CPU Water Cooler 240mm £79:99

Some extra Fans but which I don't know. Maybe the Phanteks SK 140mm Black DRGB PWM Fan Triple pack @ £54:98

Total---£1,175:87 to self build. Or Pay OCUK to build it for me for that extra £200 which comes to £1,375:87p

"Please, Please Speck me the ones you think is better at around the above prices or lower if you think there is Better than the above"

I have left the OS Win 10 out at the moment as I'm trying how to suss out putting it on a USB pen drive. THANKS.
Ok
Firstly, you need to decide if you're going to build yourself or get OCuk to do it. If yourself, and you like OCuk, you can buy bulk here, but if they're sold out here, nothing stopping you buying elsewhere..B660 Tomahawk case in point which you can get elsewhere for £189 for delivery tomorrow if you, or after just checking you can get the MSI Pro Z690-A DDR4 wifi for £195 elsewhere (as said £220 a bit steep here as been consistently £200 for last few months)

Case..out of those 2, I'd go phanteks and corsair. The corsair psu has a 10 year warranty, the msi has a 5 year one and I prefer the phanteks case too


the max power draw the 12700k had was 374W under a stress test and the gtx 1660 storm(which you may get later you were saying is 132w stressed) so combined you're still under 500w, and you wont actually be drawing that...seeing as you're going to try the igpu firstly, and then maybe put in a basic card the 850w corsair is already overkill..you don't need 1000w, nor 850 for your workload.

if you want to spend less on case, the phanteks p400a below is on offer, or the lian li cool mesh with corsair rm650 on offer also..the rm650 is more than capable for your workload

you can then put the saving into a better ssd

why do you need/want more fans? the cases all comes with 3 in front and you get some with the aio also...if you get the p500a case remember get the 360mm aio, all other cases, and the 2 i put above is the 240mm

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £213.79 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

Only putting this out there, but seeing as a 12700k is £389 and 12600k £259, from above, 12700k is 6% faster for lightroom, and 4% faster for Photoshop..is it worth the 50% premium you'll be paying...the 12600k is still on a par with a 5900X, so is still extremely powerful and going to be a massive improvement on your current system​
 
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your build above was roughly £1,176. Think below is more than capable for photo editing and will save £283
Put a gen4 nvme drive in there also as faster than the p2 and has a TBW of 1800 as opposed to 300 on the P2 also, so will last 6 times longer on av. Comes with 5yrs warranty too
Aio used the phanteks with 6 year warranty but the arctic same price. If you adamant you want 12700k, then use arctic...thicker rad so better cooling but for a 12600l phanteks more than enough...could save a bit and go air cooling here too. As said talking 4-6% difference in performance for lightroom and photoshop
one thing with tomahawk board is that it has preinstalled i/o shield, so one less thing to worry about (or forget to install) when self building


My basket at OcUK:

Total: £892.93 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

 
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your build above was roughly £1,176. Think below is more than capable for photo editing and will save £283
Put a gen4 nvme drive in there also as faster than the p2 and has a TBW of 1800 as opposed to 300 on the P2 also, so will last 6 times longer on av. Comes with 5yrs warranty too
Aio used the phanteks with 6 year warranty but the arctic same price. If you adamant you want 12700k, then use arctic...thicker rad so better cooling but for a 12600l phanteks more than enough...could save a bit and go air cooling here too. As said talking 4-6% difference in performance for lightroom and photoshop
one thing with tomahawk board is that it has preinstalled i/o shield, so one less thing to worry about (or forget to install) when self building


My basket at OcUK:

Total: £892.93 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

Thank you for Helping me craig_D1....I like what you got here BUT! (always a but with me,sorry) I Like that Lian Li Lancool II case. So hows about this.
Lian Li Lancool II ARGB Midi Tower Case-Black or White if one there with Corsair RM Series RM650 psu £136:80p
MSI MAG B660 Tomahawk WiFi DDR4 Intel B660 ATX Motherboard £194:99
Intel core i7 12700K 3.60KHz (alder Lake) LGA 1700PCU £389:99 Reason it is faster for all I want to do with All my Photo programs.
Phanteks Glacier One 240mp All in one CPU Water Cooler D-RGB blk 240mm £79:99 OR the Arctic Liquid Freezer II High performance CPU £79:99
Team Group Vulcan Z T-Force 32gb DDR4 2500C16 3200MHz Dual Ch £95:99
Seagate Firecuda 520 1TB ssd PCIe Gen4 NVME M2 ssd £109:99
Palit GeForce GTX 1660 StormX 6GB GDDR5 RAM GPU £199:99

total (I think) £1,207:74 OF COURSE, If I get OCUK to build for me then I'll have to add another £200 on top £1,407:74p
PLUS 3 x 120mm Fans in front Instead of the one that is there. NOT sure which will cool that HOT! CPU better, Air Cooler or a 240mm Arctic Freezer.

Reason for going to ask OC to build for me is I have never attached or seen a Water Cooler. NOT got a clue if I have to keep checking it or even filling it from time to time.
I HATE water in my PC. Always terrified they might leak. OR I might spill some. So If I build then a Darn Good AIR COOLER on CPU that will stop cpu from getting too Hot and does NOT interfere with RAM Slots. Maybe a Noctua NH-D15s or NOT lol

MANY THANKS for Kind help.
 
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I watched a Utube video yesterday for 3 hours. Never done that before. It was by 'Pierre Cardin' Building a PC in same tower I'm going to buy. That man is a Wizard at building PCs.
I never watch a video for that long but I had to watch him to the end. Mind You, Sorting out all those cables for RGB etc put me right off to build mine myself. My eyes are not good these days. So when I ready and fully made up my mind which parts I buy, OCUK can build it for me.
 
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Can I say a Big THANK YOU for All the Help so far.....Just One more Itemised Lot of which I Like. If any changes are needed, PLEASE DO Tell Me..
Lian Li Lancool II Mesh Performance Midi Case
Seasonic Focus GX 850W 80+Gold PSU
MSI Pro Z690 A WiFi DDR4 ATX Mobo
I7 12700K 3.60KHz (Alder Lake) Socket LGA 1700 PCU
WD Black SN 850 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCIe Gen4 SSD (two) Will two of these stop you using a normal ssd port????
Arctic Liquid Freezer II High Performance CPU Water Cooler 2400mm
Team Group Vulcan Z T-Force 32GB (2x16gb) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel RAM.. OR should I go for 3600????
Palit GeForce GTX 1660 StormX 6144MB GDDR5 RAM
Raijinter Auras 14 RGB LED Fan + Controller 140mm 3pk Fans.

CHEERS n BEERS---Dennis.
 
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ANYONE able to confirm for me that the Above Components are 100% Compatible with each other. THANK YOU.

Mobo (Z690-A) + CPU (12700K) = Yes
Mobo (Z690-A) + Memory (Team Group Vulcan 32GB 3200) = not in Z690-A QVL, but lots of Team Group memory is, so I can't imagine why it wouldn't work. Don't bother with 3600 unless it is very close (few £).
Mobo (Z690-A) + SSDs (2x WD Black SN850) = Yes. The SN850 appears to be in the QVL, too. You need to use M.2 1 and M.2 2 to get PCI-E 4.0 mode on both drives. I can't find any exclusions (on lanes/SATA ports in the manual, or on the webpage).
PSU (GX-850) + Mobo (Z690-A) = Yes. You need 2x 8 pin EPS connectors, which the PSU appears to have. Both probably aren't necessary, but the manual says you should plug everything in.

Fans (Raijinter LED fans and controller) + Case (Lian Li Lancool II) = Don't know
Cooler (Arctic Liquid Freezer II) + Mobo (Z690-A) + CPU (12700K) = Don't know
 
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Thank You Tetras--Appreciated. 1st>>RAM, Which do you say is best, should I check on the Z690 site for compatible RAM at 3200 ??
2nd>>SSDs--Two WD Blacks sounds Good.
3rd>>HOPEFULLY someone else will pop in about the Fans. Will have a read at what fans others are using. As for Cooler Arctic Liquid Freezer II a few are using them but I don't know if they are good as some say. Thanks. Have a Good Weekend.
 
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Thank You Tetras--Appreciated. 1st>>RAM, Which do you say is best, should I check on the Z690 site for compatible RAM at 3200 ??

If you want to be completely safe, sure, but the memory is cheap so I'd just take a pop it'll work fine (most likely that it will).
 
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