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New Pioneer Plasmas. When???

Discussion in 'Home Cinema & Hi-Fi' started by Vlad Drac, 20 May 2006.

  1. Vlad Drac

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    Hi All

    Has anyone got any ideas when Pioneer will release the replacement for the PDP-436 XDE plasma screen and what will be the big differences :confused:

    I have had a look about the Pioneer web site but there doesn't seem to be any news going.

    Anyone read anything in a av mag or on a forum ???
     
  2. phill9800

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    I went with my Dad to the Bristol Sound and Vision show and they where selling them there with 10% discount as well.

    They where truly stunning....

    I'm unsure of any particular differences as such, just one had it all built in and the other came with a box that had an extra HDMI input and input for a PC as well I believe...
     
  3. chaparral

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    The new pioneer replacement for there 43" screen is going be a 42" screen with the same 1024x768 res.

    http://pioneer.jp/press/release164.html

    [ PDP-427HX ]
    Power consumption in use/standby: 288 W/0.1 W
    Annual power consumption: 266 kWh/year
    Screen size: 42 inches :(
    Effective screen size: 922 mm (W) x 515 mm (H)
    Aspect ratio: 16:9
    Number of pixels: 1024 (H) x 768 (V)
    Dimensions: 1040 mm (W) x 679 mm (H) x 115 mm (D)
    Weight: 29.0 kg
    Power supply: AC100V 50/60 Hz
    Built-in tuners: Terrestrial Digital (x2), BS Digital (x2), CS Digital (x2),
    VHF/UHF,CATV (C13ch-C38ch)
    Surround: SRS WOW (SRS/FOCUS/TruBass)
    Built-in amplifier output: 13 W + 13 W (JEITA)
    Built-in speakers: Bass-reflex 2-way speaker system
    I/O terminals Antenna input: Terrestrial Digital: 1, BS/CS: 1, VHF/UHF/CATV: 1,
    Video input 1: D4 Video, S2 Video, Video, Audio
    Video input 2: S2 Video, Video, Audio
    Video input 3: D4 Video, Audio
    Video input 4: D4 Video, S2 Video, Video, Audio
    Video input 5: HDMI
    Video input 6: HDMI
    PC input: RGB Video: 1 (Mini D-sub 15), Audio: 1
    Digital broadcast output: 1 (S2 Video, Video, Audio)
    Headphones output: 1
    Digital audio output (optical): 1
    Video control terminal: 1
    i.LINK (TS) terminal: 2
    LAN (10BASE-T/100BASE-TX) Terminal : 1
    Modem terminal: 1
    SR+ terminal : 1 each for input and output
    USB input terminal: 1
    Accessories: Remote control, Owners' manual, etc.
     
    Last edited: 21 May 2006
  4. zealot

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    Pioneer PDP-436SXE and PDP-436RXE are the Uk 2006 models RXE model has the analogue tuner.

    Main Features PDP-436SXE
    Diagonal Screen Size 43-inch/109 cm

    Contrast Ratio 3.000:1

    HD ready Yes
    DVB-T Digital Tuner Yes
    Integrated Speakers Yes
    HDMI Input 1
    Analogue Tuner Noise Reduction Yes
    Electronic Program Guide (NexTView) Yes
    PUREBLACK Panel Yes
    PURE Drive 2HD Yes
    Picture PDP-436SXE
    XGA Panel Yes
    Aspect Ratio 16:9
    Number of Pixels 1024 (Hor) x 768 (Ver)
    Brightness 1.100 cd/m2
    Video Signals PAL/SECAM/ NTSC3.58/NTSC4.43/ PAL60/HD
    Still Picture Yes
    AV Selection (Programmed Picture) Yes
    PUREBLACK Crystal Layer Yes
    Direct Colour Filter Yes
    True Matrix Imaging with Deep Waffle Rib Structure Yes
    Colour Temperature Adjustment Yes
    Colour Management Yes
    Digital CTI (Colour Transient Improvement) Yes
    DNR (Digital Noise Reduction) Yes
    MPEG NR (Noise Reduction) Yes
    PAL 3D Y/C Separation Yes
    Active Dynamic Range Expander (DRE) Yes
    Natural Enhancer Yes
    i-CLEAR Drive Yes
    Dynamic HD Converter Yes
    Digital Flicker Free Yes
    PureCinema Yes
    Audio PDP-436SXE
    Audio Output Power 13 Watt + 13 Watt (1 kHz, 10%, 8 Ohm)
    Tone Control (Bass, Treble, Balance) Yes
    Sound Options Surround (SRS), Audio Orientation (FOCUS), Bass Boost (TruBass)
    Digital Tuner PDP-436SXE
    DVB-T Compliant Yes
    Modulation COFDM (2k/8k)
    Video decoding MPEG2 [email protected]
    Preset Channels 999
    Digital Teletext (MHEG 5) Yes
    Tuner PDP-436SXE
    Auto Channel Search Yes
    Reception System PAL BG/I/DK, SECAM BG/DK/L/L'
    Number of Preset Channels 99
    Teletext (CEEFAX/FLOF/TOP) Yes
    Teletext Picture and Text (Dual Screen) Yes
    Control PDP-436SXE
    OSD (On-Screen Display) GB/D/F/NL/I/E/P/S/ FIN/GR/TR/RUS/NO/DK
    Remote Control Yes
    i/o Link.A Yes
    Energy Save mode (for AV and PC) Yes
    Connection terminals PDP-436SXE
    HDMI Compatible 1
    Component Video In 1
    S-Video In (Front AV) 1
    RCA AV In (Front AV) 1
    Euro-SCART 3
    Digital Optical Audio Out 1
    RCA Audio Out 1
    Common Interface Slot (CA Card) 1
    i/o link.A Select 1
    Antenna Terminal Digital Tuner 2
    Antenna Terminal Analogue Tuner 1
    Other PDP-436SXE
    Dimensions Display (W x H x D) 1076 x 696 x 116 mm
    Weight Display 31.8 kg
    Power Consumption Display 291 Watt / 0.8 Watt
    Power Requirements AC 220 - 240 V, 50/60 Hz
     
  5. poltergeist666

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    There was a rumour on the AVforums, that the series 7 Pio's would be able to handle 1080P ..

    Stick with my 50" 504 .... for the time being! :D
     
  6. poltergeist666

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    If you want to keep track of developments, then the link below, is the best place to do it.

    AV Forums

    Theres not a lot that happens, or is about to happen in the AV world, that doesn't get discussed there first.
     
  7. Oops Dead Again

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  8. poltergeist666

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    Clicks the link and drools.

    NO - food is more important then a new plasma - he says to himself, trying to sound convincing. :D
     
  9. Oops Dead Again

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    I know I'm trying to work out how I can afford one of these puppies
     
  10. poltergeist666

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    Iv'e figured that I will just have to go without. It was hard enough trying to justify buying a 504, little more than 20 months ago - and at £4800, it wasn't exactly cheap!
     
  11. Oops Dead Again

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    Yeah I know me 436xde is only 4 months old, there is no way the wife is going to let me buy one
     
  12. Mr Latte

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    Oh gauuud almost 5k, like anything early adopters (casualities) always suffer the worst.

    Although saying that aint the 1080p LCD alternatives going to be alot cheaper guys than the Plasmas?

    Sony 40" X series approx £2300 - £2500?
     
  13. poltergeist666

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    It's a divided viewpoint that LCD is still not there with plasma yet - but has closed the gap on where it was 18 months ago.

    I told a small fib, in that I actually got a cheque back for £550 from the shop that I bought the plasma from - I commited to buy the thing for £4800, and all the paperwork was done on half cash, half interest free. Paid the cash deposit, and the plasma took 5 weeks to arrive, and in that time the retail price dropped £500, so I cancelled the order. Trouble was, the dealer had already processed the interest free order to the finance company, and had received his money, even though I hadn't had my goods. Realising he was a naughty boy, he offered me the plasma at the new price, plus another £50 off, and free fitting to my living room wall, including hiding/burying the cables & making good, which he normally charged £200 in addition. :)

    £4250 is still a lot of money for a tv, I grant you, but worth it for sheer 50" visual bliss. :D
     
  14. Mr Latte

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    I disagree that Plasma is much better now tbh, LCD blacks are improving all the time, well on the best models it is and you always get the higher resolutions, usually more suited for HTPC use as well as no issues with screen burn. This isnt to say plasma isnt suitable but i dont think it offers the advantages it once did over early LCD tech.

    The new 1080p Plasma are going to cost a fortune, but lets face it compare a common plasma today with 1024x768 res (43") to the upcoming 1920x1080 and thats a huge jump.

    Regards 50" thats tiny, you were a brave man jumping in when you did. I almost done the same but knew it was wiser waiting particulary now as a decent PJ can be purchased for £1000 - £1500 and a classy plasma or LCD all for under 4k
     
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  15. Oops Dead Again

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    True, the new 1080p pioneers are going to be around the £5500 mark for a 50" model with a 61" model following. For that sort of money I would rather spend on a decent 42" plasma now and get a decent projector and screen for movies and sport. I've got the plasma already, just trying to convince the wife to let me get a pj (got me eye on either the ThemeScene HD72i which can be had for £1795 including an electric screen, 12v trigger ubit, 10m component lead and ceiling mount) or the IN76.
     
  16. poltergeist666

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    That's progress I guess - I live for now, not later, and at 50" small, it does the deed.
     
  17. Mr Latte

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    Dont get me wrong if you want a thing bad enough the price is sometimes overcome but i still wouldnt spend 5k on ANY single AV product, now or later particulary in something where technology moves so fast but each to their own
     
  18. Replicant

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    I dont think you could ever say 50" is small lol, yes a projector has its advantages in image size but the detail in the image does not comapre to a smaller LCD or plasma and you need the space to accomodate it too.
     
  19. zealot

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    I'd still rather have a projector for the cinematics they produce they just can't be beat.
     
  20. Oops Dead Again

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    Image quality on a projector can be exceptional, my local dealer has a Runco pj being fed a 1080p signal and the image is stunning. Saying that it should be these pj's start at £4000 upto £250000. (Oh to win the lottery)