New Star Trek series - 2017

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I have no issue with moral themes being tackled, ST has always done this just maybe not in such a serious unfun way.

The thing I do find a little amusing though is how Star Fleet seems to be comprised of mostly Woman and all the men seem to be a bit useless/need saving, being a female Red shirt doesn't mean you are the first to die either. lol

I suppose they will justify this by saying "well, its been the other way round for years", well 2 wrongs don't make a right.

Just my opinion.
 
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Not sure what to make of s02e01. I didn't hate it, but I don't think I really enjoyed it either.

You know back in the old days of TNG,DS9,VOY I could rewatch episodes over and over again. I've never had a repeat viewing of DIS, nor do I have any desire to do so.

It's very much a throw away show for me. Kills 45mins of boredom. I don't think about it too seriously.
 

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So, just watched S02E01...

.. Loved it, some of the characters are really developing and are very likable, I really don't get all the hate over this series.

Really liked the Engineer woman on the asteroid.. Keep her in as a regular please.
 
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I didn't really enjoy 02x01. The podracing bits were laughable/facepalmable etc. Quite agree with TheOracle's comments above really - they were spot on for me. I frequently watch old trek episodes loads but not a single episode we've seen so far I'd want to rewatch.

Thought Captain Pike and Jet xxx were superbly played and casted, the latter I can't wait to see in action onboard the Disco. On the opposite end I burst out laughing at child spork and the morphing iron man suits! It was great to see an early 'Geordi LaForge' visor on the show I confess. I stil don't know what to make of Burnham but its clear that she and Spork have been 'ponfarr banging' or had some course of an intimate relationship going by the ending of that episode.
 
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It was OK as a bit of entertainment. But some of it, such as the pod racing, was indeed a bit cringe-worthy. I also hated the way they pretty much destroyed Spocks character. I just can't see him behaving that way as a child. However the visual effects were great and the casting of Pike was spot on. I would love to see Pike captaining the Enterprise as a proper Star Trek series. That would be fantastic and a true Star Trek series. Despite enjoying Discovery I don't feel it's a real successor to the original series or TNG. I'll still watch it though.
 
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Oh, and on the subject of Connolly's not-a-moment-too-soon demise - who was thinking that the redshirt lass Nhan was gonna be the one to get reduced to her component atoms? :D

Yep, I was really expecting her to be splatted :)

The only thing that I did struggle with is all I can keep seeing is Cullen Bohannon with a haircut :o:D

Cleans up well doesn't he. I only knew it was him at the start because I saw his name in the titles :)
 
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Thought the series opener was pretty awful TBH, except for the visual effects guys and Anson Mount. Everything just seemed to forced and contrived. They can't get to the asteroid, they don't have drones or probes (unlike the engineer on the wreck) but they do have one-man fighters. So who flies them? Two science officers, a red shirt and the captain. They fly at incredibly high speed (slow down you idiots), lose one science guy and the captain, and if Burnham's risky hail mary hadn't worked ("by the power of Mary-Sue!") then three out of four would be dead. But not the red shirt, because that confounds our expectations, so it's clever, right? It reminded me of the Dr Who fillers where they just run down a corridor waving their hands with loud music, and that's supposed to be storyline, but it's just wasting time.

Then they find the genius engineer who's been keeping everyone alive, but apparently she's too dumb to call for rescue or plug in transporters (don't worry, Burnham can Mary-Sue it for you). Then when Burnham gets herself blown out the door, she runs through an exploding ship, but because they scatter a few pattern enhancers half a mile away (which they didn't need to do anyway as they enabled the transporters), she manages to get rescued just before she's killed.

Enterprise manages to fly right to Discovery before experiencing complete, mysterious system failures, and then at the end we see her being towed by tugs at sublight speeds. Probably only take a few hundred years to get to the next starbase.

Pike is going to "share command", because that's what ship commanders do, right?

Burnham is as wooden as ever, and in the flashbacks appears to be adopted at age 12-14. No human foster parents available this side of Vulcan?

What is Tilly for? Is she comedy? Is she on the Aspergers scale, and thus not going to work as a crew member? Discovery is supposed to be a secret development vessel, that's not where you put your trainees. "Yay! science!" **** off Tilly!

It just all seemed so sloppy and lazy, no one even made an effort to make things tie together and close loopholes. People did dumb things, and dumb things happened to them. It's just like the first series where the security officer pokes the space dolphin, and it kills her for being an idiot, and I cheered for the character getting what they deserved for being dumb.

I read that the showrunners got canned (they replaced the previous showrunner who got canned during season 1). Apparently, they ****** away nearly the whole budget (which is a lot less since Netflix won't pay much for this nonsense), because the first half had to be completely redone. It was so badly received by internal screening audiences, the whole lot had to be scrapped and reshot. I am not surprised if the "fixed" version of the series opener was this poor.

No wonder there are strong rumours that STD is going to get scrapped in favour of the new Jean-Luc Picard series. At least we know that Patrick Stewart isn't going to phone in his performance like most of the STD cast, and he's going to insist on decent scripts.

STD must do better. A lot better.
 
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Burnham reminds me of the great Rodney McKay from Stargate Atlantis. That guy could talk whack and fix an imploding star if he encountered such a situation. He always managed to fix an impossible scenario and Burnham seems to be the same. The pod racing rescue scene from what I recall of it (I was dozing off) was just laughable.
 
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Burnham reminds me of the great Rodney McKay from Stargate Atlantis. That guy could talk whack and fix an imploding star if he encountered such a situation. He always managed to fix an impossible scenario and Burnham seems to be the same. The pod racing rescue scene from what I recall of it (I was dozing off) was just laughable.

But that was Rodney's one thing. In everything else, he was a coward, selfish, arrogant, useless with a gun or combat, rubbish with women, had no empathy, couldn't fly or drive worth a damn, crap with people, etc. He had his one gift, and everything else he was rubbish at. His character progressed and got better/braver over five years, but he was never a mary-sue. He was a lot of fun and became a breakout character because he was so admirable for his genius, and so understandable for his failure at everything else.

As a character, Rodney was far more realistic and rounded than Burnham, he didn't have an edgy, gender-bending name and funky vulcan psi-powers, and worked far better as a member of an ensemble cast than Burnham does as the main lead of STD. Frankly, though David Howlett is a limited actor, he's still better than the terminally wooden Martin-Green.
 
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Thats a huge disservice to McKay..
That's true. I love the guy tbh. Though he's no Samantha "I blew up a sun" Carter

But that was Rodney's one thing. In everything else, he was a coward, selfish, arrogant, useless with a gun or combat
Woah! I recall a certain episode where McKay and the other bloke (oh dear forgot his name) had to escort a little princess somewhere and Rodney fought off bad guys with a gun whilst the other chap cowered in fear!:p
 
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