New to water cooling, planning first build. Help

razor007 · 3 Feb 2020 at 12:41

So if I was to go with the 10/13 tubing, what fittings do I use? Any of these? https://www.overclockers.co.uk/water-cooling/fittings/13-10-mm

Also is this the coolant u have on mind? Is 1l enough to fill the loop?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/mayhems-x1-clear-premixed-watercooling-fluid-1l-wc-035-mh.html

tamzzy · 3 Feb 2020 at 12:47

razor007 said:
what fittings do I use? Any of these?

yeah
recommend compression fittings rather than barbs - more secure
i used koolance fittings for mine as they are physically smaller than the other brands

MikeTimbers · 3 Feb 2020 at 14:45

yes any of those. These brands are very expensive though. Look for Barrow fittings.

LuckyBenski · 3 Feb 2020 at 14:49

For the drain, you'll either need to use a spare port on your reservoir (check manual) or a T fitting. It's just an adapter with 3 ports so you can place it inline on a component, with the 3rd port leading to the drain valve.

MikeTimbers · 3 Feb 2020 at 17:02

put the T somewhere were you can easily make it the low point in the loop.

razor007 · 3 Feb 2020 at 17:58

Ok. Cannot find a spare port so will have to use a splitter.
Looking at the tubing, massive difference in price EK vs MAYHEMS
Is there any difference between the two? All I need for my basket now. Git some spare 90 and 45 angled fittings in case my plan doesn't work out

So excited

Mcnumpty2323 · 3 Feb 2020 at 18:06

Make sure the
90 degree and 45 degree fittings
Are rotary ones

LuckyBenski · 3 Feb 2020 at 18:33

razor007 said:
Ok. Cannot find a spare port so will have to use a splitter.
Looking at the tubing, massive difference in price EK vs MAYHEMS
Is there any difference between the two? All I need for my basket now. Git some spare 90 and 45 angled fittings in case my plan doesn't work out
So excited

From what people report, the Mayhems tubing actually has the least leaching and clouding, despite being more affordable. Seems to be the current favourite, same for their fluids.

razor007 · 3 Feb 2020 at 22:09

Mcnumpty2323 said:
Make sure the
90 degree and 45 degree fittings
Are rotary ones

Can anyone please confirm that I have selected correct fittings?
I am buying those
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-w...ing-compression-fitting-nickel-wc-9sb-ek.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/alph...-90-degree-g1-4-fitting-chrome-wc-09w-ac.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/bits...to-13-10mm-rotatable-blood-red-wc-411-bp.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-water-blocks-ek-af-ball-valve-10mm-g14-black-nickel-wc-899-ek.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-water-blocks-ek-af-t-splitter-3f-g1-4-black-nickel-wc-9j5-ek.html

LuckyBenski · 3 Feb 2020 at 22:22

razor007 said:
Can anyone please confirm that I have selected correct fittings?
I am buying those
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-w...ing-compression-fitting-nickel-wc-9sb-ek.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/alph...-90-degree-g1-4-fitting-chrome-wc-09w-ac.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/bits...to-13-10mm-rotatable-blood-red-wc-411-bp.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-water-blocks-ek-af-ball-valve-10mm-g14-black-nickel-wc-899-ek.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-water-blocks-ek-af-t-splitter-3f-g1-4-black-nickel-wc-9j5-ek.html

Those all look good - assuming the mixing colours and brands is intentional.

You may need one or two male-male extenders/joiners to link the T piece and ball valve to other parts. They all have female thread.

Also worth getting a stop plug for the ball valve in case it ever leaks slightly. Can remove the plug before draining.

For the 45s and 90s you could get angled adapters and put your normal fittings onto those, to match styles.

Mcnumpty2323 · 3 Feb 2020 at 22:30

as already said by luckybenski

only other thing i do
1 female part of my ball valve usually is the end of the run
depending how you set it up-yours may not be
is i put a g 1/4 blank/stop on the end of ball valve
just in case
ball valves unlikely to leak though can get bumped open by accident
working in the case
but i am a belt and braces guy lol

edit
and if he already said that i missed it lol
or he edited it when i wasnt looking

razor007 · 3 Feb 2020 at 22:31

struggling to find any 45 angled other than the one I got.
not bothered with the colour of the valve, to be fair choice is very limited.
Can you expand on the 45/90 angled adaptors? not sure what u mean?

I am open to suggestions

Could you advise on how to build the drain and give me links to what to get? Very confusing

LuckyBenski · 3 Feb 2020 at 23:02

Male to male joiner for fitting T piece to reservoir, ball valve to T piece etc:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-water-blocks-ek-af-extender-6mm-m-m-g1-4-black-wc-9j2-ek.html

90° adapter which is male to female. This means a normal male threaded fitting will go onto it, just like the ones you'll use all over your build:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-w...led-90-degrees-g1-4-inch-black-wc-734-ek.html

So for instance:

outlet of pump > male-male joiner > T piece > fitting, onwards to loop.

Then the side bit of T piece > male-male joiner > ball valve > stop plug.

When it's time to drain, take the plug off the ball valve and screw a spare fitting with tubing onto the valve. Open the valve and aim the tubing into a bowl/jug.

Mcnumpty2323 said:
or he edited it when i wasnt looking

Stealth edit

razor007 · 3 Feb 2020 at 23:34

Ok I think I got you. Only issue I have i that I was hoping to put the in and out on the inside of the case facing the wall.
This gives me very limited access and space to set up the valve.
it is also not the lowest part of the loop as the pump will sit above the GPU. I may have some clearance issues If I was to add the valve there.

I was thinking:

I will add the splitter at the bottom in between the GPU and the RAD. From the splitter male - male joiner > valve and stop plug.

Would this work?

Hope it would as I have just made the order. you could buy a freeking PC for the cost of all those components lol.

Mcnumpty2323 · 3 Feb 2020 at 23:57

Very sneaky
Editing when the poor
Dyslexic guy wasn't looking lol
Yes the pc case may
Limit where you can put things
I have put the in/out facing the rear
Panel before
Just meant to drain I had to take
The rear panel off
Ideally drain point should be
Lowest point
It's possible to do the drain
Off the radiator if that's on the bottom
Can even do it off a tubing run
If no where else available
Another option
Which I am doing now
Is to use quick disconnects
You can remove cpu or gpu without
Draining
Though not cheap but I got 120 quids
Worth off ebay new for 17 quid lol
Right place right time they don't sell well on eBay so if auctioned not
Buy now bargains
Can be had
Got a picture of the inside of
Your case?
That might help

razor007 · 4 Feb 2020 at 00:47

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xr50r5mlqvfxz7x/20200202_193933.jpg?dl=0

This is what it looks like inside. The gpu is same lenght as the aorus 1080ti extreme with WB that has arrived today but not had a chance to take picture yet.
Box and fan show where the rad and fans will reach up to.
I have around 4 cm space under the gpu to play with

razor007 · 4 Feb 2020 at 10:10

Those fittings are the hardest part to get your head round. I must say description is not always user friendly and u really have to guess from the way fitting looks like.
At least I find it really hard to choose the right ones.

Like the idea of quick release. Think will upgrade in the future. If I am reading correctly, I will need those two?
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/koolance-qd3-no-spill-quick-male-to-13-10mm-black-wc-149-ka.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kool...-for-10mm-x-13mm-3-8in-x-1-2in-wc-141-ka.html

razor007 · 4 Feb 2020 at 13:17

I will be forever grateful if any if you could explain how I can measure temperature of the liquid in my loop without breaking the bank?

MikeTimbers · 4 Feb 2020 at 17:25

why worry about it? I've been water-cooling for more than twenty years and never measured the temperature in the loop beyond feeling the pipe. What matters is the temperatures of what you're trying to cool; how hot is my cpu or gpu? The water temperatures are not really relevant.

doesn't answer your question, sorry. there are (relatively) cheap in-line temp sensors from Barrow and Bysksi available from your friendly Chinese market website.

Mcnumpty2323 · 4 Feb 2020 at 19:46

Like above
I never watched liquids temperature
Only my hardware
Can also get dirt cheap
A probe and lcd screen
Designed for testing air con
And fridge/freezer temps
They are waterproof