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New Toyota Supra formally announced

Discussion in 'Motors' started by Lowe, Mar 6, 2018.

  1. RenoRanes007

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  2. Dis86

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    Don't like the front end on that at all! Be interesting to see how it measures up to the Z4.
     
  3. Conscript

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    It looks much better in the head on shot at the bottom there. I can kind of see the resemblance to the Mk4.
     
  4. Uncle_Gravy

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    I just don't like the look of the car at all, there's not an angle on that car i think looks good, so i'll stick with the "boring" Z4
     
  5. [TW]Fox

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    I think this is a rare occasion when a car needs a big wing.
     
  6. NathWraith

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    Agreed.
     
  7. Lowe

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    It'll be interesting to see if they do an 'Aero' variant like on the 86 which will have a slightly different kit on it and the typical Toyota big wing.

    I'm reading rumours of two specs of the 3.0l being mooted, one being road focused and another for the track, the track one having the 380bhp and the road one being the 340bhp version of the B58. I wonder if they'll do the 'track' one as the Gazoo Racing version. Either way it's not long until we find out, 5 more days. :)
     
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  8. Nasher

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    It does look like they have used some of the aero from the gt86. Like the shape of the bonnet nose and the ridges which direct airflow towards the roof.

    As for the 2 versions, I'm guessing the 340 one will easily be tuned to 380 :p

    No option for a manual gearbox though, which is a big shame. Since most of the GT86s sold are manual you'd think they would. Apart from the exterior, it all seems a bit too BMW for my liking tbh.
     
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  9. Dis86

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    What's the toted weight on the thing? From memory the z4 is a bit of a porker.
     
  10. Lowe

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    Nothing officially released yet but unofficially they're saying no more than 1500kg.
     
  11. kurosagi01

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    Needs big wing or the angel halo spoiler.
     
  12. lemonade

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    Not feeling the front end yet, the one on the FT-1 concept was very pretty, this looks a bit gawky, but its been built down to a cost so expected.
     
  13. Rossi~

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    Indeed. I'm coming to terms with the looks of the Alpine, but regardless, it certainly seems to be quite a special car. Also, even though the power to weight to fun ratio is bang on, the guys at Litchfield have one remapped to 300/300 and it handles it comfortably, that makes it even more interesting.
     
  14. Nasher

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    I'd be too worried about an Alpine breaking (or combusting). Afterall it is French lol

    It's a car people are going to buy and not use.
     
  15. Lashout_UK

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    Quite the opposite, in my experience. Virtually everyone I know who's bought an Alpine has done nothing but drive it continuously. You can easily drive one every day – and I would, too, if I were in a position to buy one.

    No qualms on the reliability front, either. Hell, not that reliability surveys are the be-all and end-all, but Renault placed higher than companies such as Porsche, Volvo, Audi, Mercedes and Nissan in the What Car? 2019 survey.
     
  16. pioneer2000

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    I don't see what an Alpine offers over a GT86 really. Slightly more power for a whole load more cash, less reliability and a worse badge.
     
  17. Rossi~

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    25% more power, 4.5seconds to 0-62, rear engined in a great chassis and lighter at 1100Kg. It's competing with the likes of a Cayman, so I don't really think we need to discuss the GT86.
     
  18. Uncle_Gravy

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    You beat me to it, The Alpine is another league ahead of the GT86, significantly faster, sounds much better, much nicer interior compared to the cheapy plastic look of the 86, have to wait and see about reliability but signs of rust earlier on in it's lifecycle is not a good look really for the 86.
     
  19. Nasher

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    You can stick a Cosworth supercharger in a GT86, forge the engine for 400hp+ and have a lot of cash to spare :D

    As for rust, mine is 6 years old now and it still looks very clean on the underside.
     
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    And then you lose the (perceived) reliability advantage. And the Alpine will still be lighter, and just as easy to tune with a turbocharger, I'd imagine.

    Both cars share the same ethos of focusing on fun over numbers, but there's no denying the Alpine is technically the better car The only thing the GT86 can compete on is that it provides a manual gearbox and natural aspiration, but these are subjective elements.

    Let's just hope that the existence of both means more manufacturers look to make cars like this in the future instead of endlessly upping power and weight.