New Vega 56 Pulse Crashes

Arch1e · 17 Feb 2019 at 16:27

tamzzy said:
glad it works at stock and all sorted, but yeah, unfortunately it appears your card is a bit of a dud for overclocking

Thank you. At lest HBM OC`ed good enough... I think OC`ed HBM gave me a very good boost in perfm...

Arch1e · 17 Feb 2019 at 16:27

eeii said:
Can you tell me from GPUZ who makes the HBM memory on your card. I know hynix RAM does not overclock at all very well and 930 is just too much.

Hynix HBM, here is screenshot of GPUZ: https://clip2net.com/s/3ZShxGT

eeii · 18 Feb 2019 at 08:04

Arch1e said:
Hynix HBM, here is screenshot of GPUZ: https://clip2net.com/s/3ZShxGT

Ahhh thought so. You need to lower your HBM overclock. The guys with HBM on the vega 56 forum have hit a brick wall trying to overclock Hynix. I would lower it and test in increaments until you find a safe overclock.

nitram100 · 18 Feb 2019 at 09:46

joelk2 said:
Sorry to hijack slightly but what would the minimum power supply you could get away with? Looking at the Vega 56 myself and have a 620w PSU, 4670k @ 4ghz .

My brother uses a ocz modxztream 600 w with an overclocked 2500k at 4.5 ghz and his pulse 56 works fune at stock clocks, haven't tried overclocking it yet as he only plays quake live and mortal kombat.

Arch1e · 19 Feb 2019 at 21:42

eeii said:
Ahhh thought so. You need to lower your HBM overclock. The guys with HBM on the vega 56 forum have hit a brick wall trying to overclock Hynix. I would lower it and test in increaments until you find a safe overclock.

Thank you, I`ve already found stable OC: 1500MHz on core and 930MHz on HBM

Arch1e · 17 Mar 2019 at 09:49

Arch1e said:
Thank you, I`ve already found stable OC: 1500MHz on core and 930MHz on HBM

Ohh boy... My story continues... I thought I found stable OC but nope... I have random stutters when the card OC`d or on Balance mode... for example Dark Souls III: https://clip2net.com/s/40s7jFl or The Devision 2: https://clip2net.com/s/40s7l57 (both on Balance mode)

I`ve tried everything what I could... reinstall windows 10... changed power supply to 750 watt, better case with airflow... What I should do next? change motherboard and CPU just for GPU?))) any suggestions?

Also, I`ve sent it to Overclockers team but OC team send it back and said that everything is fine with the card (they tested in benchmarks in 1080p and 1440p).

I have no idea what to do next... I`m tired and I can`t enjoy my games, just waste of time... almost 2 months...

My PC specs:
CPU: Ryzen 1600x at 3800MhZ 1.15v
Motherboard: ASRock Mini-ITX Motherboard - AB350 GAMING-ITX/AC (BIOS version 3.60)
RAM: Ballistix Elite 16 GB Kit OC at 3200Mhz 1.35v
PSU: EVGA 750W '80 Plus Gold'
GPU: SAPPHIRE PULSE Radeon RX Vega 56

tamzzy · 17 Mar 2019 at 09:54

Arch1e said:
I thought I found stable OC but nope...

don't oc the card?
seems like you lost the #siliconlottery

Arch1e · 17 Mar 2019 at 10:01

tamzzy said:
don't oc the card?
seems like you lost the #siliconlottery

Yeap, even on Balanced mode I can`t play because of that stutters...

tamzzy · 17 Mar 2019 at 10:06

is radeon chill enabled? if so, try turning it off

Arch1e · 17 Mar 2019 at 10:46

Chill off always, never used it.
Here is fresh screenshot after 30min in The Division 2: https://clip2net.com/s/40s9Py4
I guess something is wrong with the cards power delivery, because all of this stutters happens at the same time with power drops...

welshrat · 17 Mar 2019 at 14:16

Does the issue occur straight away or after a while. I only ask as I have been having major performance issues with my vega pulse which turned out to be avast and also bf5 filling free memory. Turning off avast whilst gaming and running ddu memory cleaner has made a huge difference and I can now game without stutter. This always occured 30 mins into gaming. If not ignore me

Arch1e · 17 Mar 2019 at 14:37

welshrat said:
Does the issue occur straight away or after a while. I only ask as I have been having major performance issues with my vega pulse which turned out to be avast and also bf5 filling free memory. Turning off avast whilst gaming and running ddu memory cleaner has made a huge difference and I can now game without stutter. This always occured 30 mins into gaming. If not ignore me

I do not have any antiviruses on my pc... I have clean Windows 10, installed few days ago... Sometimes the issue occur straight away, sometimes after 5-10 min... I have 16GB of ram + 8GB on GPU, never seen more than 6-7GB in use on RAM and 6-8GB on GPU... I`ve tried The witcehr 2, 3, AC4, DS3 - same issue with 19.1.2, 19.1.1, 19.3.2 drivers and older one 18.XXX something...

I am going to test my GPU in my brothers PC and if this problem occurs on his computer too, then I will try to return the card again, because I do not now what to do...

Arch1e · 17 Mar 2019 at 15:24

Is this normal for Heaven Benchmark 4.0: https://clip2net.com/s/40sm3E6, drops on core clock and power draw?

Danny75 · 18 Mar 2019 at 00:24

Arch1e said:
Is this normal for Heaven Benchmark 4.0: https://clip2net.com/s/40sm3E6, drops on core clock and power draw?

Power draw dips generally aren't rare in Heaven as it's got two or three places in the bench where that happens (sometimes it dips 3 out of 3, sometimes 2 out of 3 etc).

The core clock I can't say because I have a totally different card so not sure how it should behave, i.e. fluctuations are fine but a few extreme dips as seen in your screenshot I'm not sure. On my card core clock stays the same only because it's tuned to do so.

But the memory clock sure looks interesting. That looks very bad to me. My card's memory clock is perfect stable throughout several Heaven runs and I haven't even tinkered with memory at all.

You really need someone with AMD Vega card to confirm that's not normal, though. Hopefully someone can do a few runs with their own Vega card and give you feedback.

Danny75 · 18 Mar 2019 at 01:15

Also, try running Unigine Superposition 1080p Extreme Benchmark. I just tried it to see if the power draw didn't have a few extreme dips like Heaven or Valley, and indeed it didn't:

Green line beginning of bench, red line end.

Arch1e · 18 Mar 2019 at 07:58

Danny75 said:
Also, try running Unigine Superposition 1080p Extreme Benchmark. I just tried it to see if the power draw didn't have a few extreme dips like Heaven or Valley, and indeed it didn't:

Green line beginning of bench, red line end.

Usually benchmarks works fine. I`ve run Unigine Superposition 1080p Extreme on Balanced and OC`d, everything is stable: https://clip2net.com/s/40sRN4m

Also, I tested my GPU on my brothers PC in Rise of the Tomb Raider and everything is stable even OC`d to 1592MHz at 1000Mv (actual 1503MHz) and HBM 935MHz at 1000Mv... now drops on core clock and HBM...

Now I think, it could be New Power Supply, Drivers or damaged PCI slot on my Motherboard?

Any ideas on how to and what to test?

Thank you in advance!

Danny75 · 18 Mar 2019 at 10:22

Arch1e said:
Usually benchmarks works fine. I`ve run Unigine Superposition 1080p Extreme on Balanced and OC`d, everything is stable: https://clip2net.com/s/40sRN4m

Also, I tested my GPU on my brothers PC in Rise of the Tomb Raider and everything is stable even OC`d to 1592MHz at 1000Mv (actual 1503MHz) and HBM 935MHz at 1000Mv... now drops on core clock and HBM...

Now I think, it could be New Power Supply, Drivers or damaged PCI slot on my Motherboard?

Any ideas on how to and what to test?

Thank you in advance!

Make sure you are using two separate PSU PCIe power cables, not just two connectors on the same cable.

Unseat the RAM sticks and seat them back in firmly. Set the RAM to stock speed. Run Memtest HCI. Set RAM back to 3200. Run Memtest HCI.

Try Windows 10 High Performance power plan.

Try with Game Mode on and off.

orbitalwalsh · 18 Mar 2019 at 10:30

wouldn't push the pulse too hard , PCB isn't as good as Nirto, Windforce, Strix ( when its not on fire). though damn good for its price point

i know the higher units are superflower but stating here seasonic are oem for lower watt/range

https://forums.evga.com/Who-is-the-OEM-for-this-new-EVGA-PSU-EVGA-220GS0850V1-850W-m2292107.aspx

http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/sho...ime-triggered-by-sudden-power-increases/page6

might help, but dont think thats the issue

Arch1e · 18 Mar 2019 at 10:55

Danny75 said:
Make sure you are using two separate PSU PCIe power cables, not just two connectors on the same cable.

Unseat the RAM sticks and seat them back in firmly. Set the RAM to stock speed. Run Memtest HCI. Set RAM back to 3200. Run Memtest HCI.

Try Windows 10 High Performance power plan.

Try with Game Mode on and off.

Yes, I'm using 2 separate cables. (VGA 1 ang VGA 2)
I will try to test RAM.

Could be that my new PSU is faulty? I run OCCT stres test twice for PSU (4k not in 1080p resolution) and after 7 min my screen went black (system was working but no signal on monitor), so I had to reboot the system. GPU usage was dropping to 30-70% and then back to 99%, core clock couldn't reach boost clock of 1400MHz (I run it on balanced mode), max was araound 1100-1200MHz.
I've sent a message to EVGA support, maybe they will help my to troubleshoot PSU.

Thank you.

Danny75 · 18 Mar 2019 at 11:09

I think one of the possibilities could be that ITX board not providing the necessary additional power through the PCIe slot. Hence why it was fine on your brother's system.

PSU maybe. Bit of a pain to test the PSU in your brother's system but if possible do it to rule it out.