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New World MMO

Discussion in 'PC Games' started by DoniiY, 9 Apr 2020.

  1. Tombstone

    Capodecina

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    I dont necessarily think it was a mistake to shift the focus to PvE, I do however think it was a mistake to shift that focus and then not delay the game further than they did. The main issue I had with the beta wasnt that it had shifted PvP > PvE , it was that there simply wasnt enough on the PvE side of things (not enough width or depth) to support it. Should have delayed it much longer than they did imo.
     
  2. iamtheoneneo

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    Not to be pedantic but everyone knows that FF14 isn't really a traditional MMO. They have basically put the MMO second to the RPG. Strip away the MMO bit and its basically a single player FF. Nothing wrong with that at all its just a bit weird to compare.
     
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  3. C Kent

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    I don't agree with that, it's got a ton if mmo elements, dungeon encounters/raid encounters, housing where people congregate together/open world encounters. The main difference to alot of MMOs is that they are prioritising a single player expansion long story that has set a new standard in mmo storytelling.
     
  4. Darujhistan

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    I don't disagree they should have delayed it at least another year. Trouble is they were already running very low on credibility, now they're atificially holding back Lost Ark, a ready to go game, so it doesn't clash with NW, why didn't they just switch the releases around? It's a a cycle of poor decision making.
     
  5. Tombstone

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    I wonder what impact Lost Ark will have on numbers when it finally releases.
     
  6. Darujhistan

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    I don't agree with that at all, there's virtually everything from an MMO included, with tons of side content on top. It doesn't play like a single player FF. What's it's not is a PvP focussed MMO, but that's not what the FFXIV community wants.
     
  7. Darujhistan

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    A big impact, people have been waiting for a long time for it, and it's in a finished state. They could release early 2022, when everyone is done with NW, until they improve/fix/add content.
     
  8. eekfek

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    Warhammer Age of Reckonning had a great feature - PvP area's you could wander into, fight for as long as you want then walk out back into PvE.

    Sadly, I can't see longevity in New World unless you play it for the PvP, which is not that good tbh.
     
  9. V F

    Capodecina

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    Isn't it mainly a PVE game?
     
  10. Chibi28

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    Anyone's performance get wrecked with the latest patch?
     
  11. arknor

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    yea new world seems to have multiple zones with conflicting levelling ranges.
    they could have made half the map pvp only zones with 10% exp and luck boost or something.

    add some pvp and pve objectives on the map like alterac valley..

    no forced pvp but have it mean something
     
  12. hairyfeet

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    Know a few things you can do if you happen to use a nvidia card but I am a bit anxious about giving advice on here.
    Just stuff like not using 4k, capping your frame rate at 60, using afterburner etc to monitor/adjust the power limit so it does not go over 100 etc

    I actually put my 1070ti back into my machine than risk a newer card just to be on the safe side till they properly patch stuff. Runs a treat and doesn't get too warm (considering its a blower)

    The game seems to run good on anything (especially with the mobile/link gimmick) its just horribly optimised and that really needs sorting.

    On a side note.. transfers next week it looks like, thats good
     
  13. SPG

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    PVP ruines MMPORGS... Same old vocal people whine and moan and in the end devs quit as it PVP is easy to cater for in a MMO and they move onto the next one.

    Unless stated its PVP centric then it should always be a by product of PVE.
     
  14. bJN

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    You're aware this game was originally intended to be wholly PvP right? And PvE was only added as an afterthought because the PvE crowd moaned like children?
     
  15. SPG

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    So my point still stands, thanks.
     
  16. Darujhistan

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    The vast majority of MMO players are PvE centric, so the vast majority of feedback AGS got was for people who wanted PvE, so they changed the development of the game. It's not about "crying" it's just the realities of the market, and Aamzon are the last company that's going to ignore data.
     
  17. kola

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    yeah without any pve ;)
     
  18. Eurofighter

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    Unless we have some pvp games then most gamers will be pvp centric. I haven't pvped yet.

    I think this game needs work but they have got the basics right. It just needs more content. Considering the state of mmos recently I like it. Nit rushing though. Think I'll level up logging, skinning and gathering etc today.
     
  19. Slyman

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    I am enjoying it so far, a lot of mmos have so much content that I feel overwhelmed. Only level 20 but run around flagged for pvp and only been killed a few times. Don’t mind not having mounts as like exploring and fast travel if needed, its not a very big world and no corpse runs to do
     
  20. V F

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    I've started to notice this watching numerous streams. I'm starting to recognise a lot of the same areas and battles.