News Manhunt thingy...

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Did anyone see this? They sent a 14 year old girl out to various shops to try and buy Manhunt, which is rated 18 by the BBFC.

None of the shops even asked her age or for ID.

At my local Game they ID you for ESRB rated games, which is basically a guideline age rating (Mostly for parents to decide whether a game is suitable for their children.)
I got ID'd for Soul Calibur which is ESRB 15+, ridiculous!
 
Did you notice how they seemed to focus most of their investigation on Rockstar games? Cue several people going out to buy both of those. :D
 
Really who cares, if they buy it the parent (if they give a crap) will see them playing it and can make a decision if they want their child playing it or not. Tbh if they wouldn't sell it to them most parents would get it for them any way.
 
I care, age's on games are no diffrent to films, alcohol, ciggerets.
Companies should be obeying these. It gives gaming a bad name, when media latch on to a killing and say the game made them kill, even if they didn't own it. They shouldn't even have the game in the first place.

Then you have the parents quing up so there 6 year old can have something rated an 18.
 
it is still different though because iirc it's not illegal (unless that's changed... I haven't checked) - although I agree that it should be followed
 
Well, my parents let me watch all the nasty movies like Terminator, Robocop, Alien...etc when I was about 8 years old. I got GTA when I was about 11, played a variety of other 18 rated games way before 18 and I turned out fine. I haven't killed anyone....yet :p
 
The reason games have 18 certificates is that they have sustained and needless graphic violence. That sort of stuff can really mess up kids a lot. Sure, we all went to the cinema and watched scary films etc when we weren't meant to, but it's different when you get eight year old kids going around on GTA doing all that crazy stuff.

Talk to any child worker, physcologist etc. They'll all say it's insane what we let our children play on consoles.

What angers about this issue is the shops selling 18 certificate products to kids, but not just that. If they are refused they can just ask their parents for "that game" for christmas, birthdays or whatever. I bet lots of parents don't bother looking at what's actually in the game because, "its just a game" etc. :rolleyes:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you are under 18 - no?

Or at least were under 18 whilst playing some of the games?
 
Well, my parents let me watch all the nasty movies like Terminator, Robocop, Alien...etc when I was 8 years old. I got GTA when I was about 11, played a variety of other 18 rated games way before 18 and I turned out fine. I haven't killed anyone....yet :p
That's not really the point is it 99.9% probably turn out fine. But kids shouldn't see that sort of stuff day in day out. Neither should they be wrapped up in cotton wool.
 
...what next? Kids can't learn about the holocaust at school just in case .1% of them decide to grab Reuben from class 2B and throw him in the gas oven?
 
...what next? Kids can't learn about the holocaust at school just in case .1% of them decide to grab Reuben from class 2B and throw him in the gas oven?

It's not about .1%. It affects a lot of people mentally and behivaly. 6 year olds shouldn't be playing certain games, just liek they shouldn't be watching violent/sexual films. Under-age is fine, but there has to be some limit. That's for *** parents to decide, not for the shop to flout the rules.
 
It's not about .1%. It affects a lot of people mentally and behivaly. 6 year olds shouldn't be playing certain games, just liek they shouldn't be watching violent/sexual films. Under-age is fine, but there has to be some limit. That's for *** parents to decide, not for the shop to flout the rules.

Oh so its 6 now?


You all are suggesting ages this low when they used a 14 year old?

The shop may have had a problem selling to someone that young, but most people think teenagers are sane enough to play a game an not go on a killing spree
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I don't think it was a problem for the majority of us older ones circa. 20 year olds to play whatever games were around while growing up.

But the level of detail and immersion in some games now which are rated 18 is much more now. I work in a games shop and I regularly ID people. But what bugs me is the parents that just don't give a crap. I worked in a games shop to when Vice City came out and we had to tell parents what it involved and some of them just didn't care.
 
Oh so its 6 now?


You all are suggesting ages this low when they used a 14 year old?

The shop may have had a problem selling to someone that young, but most people think teenagers are sane enough to play a game an not go on a killing spree
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the point is thats up to the parents to decide, not the shop or the kid. As I've said (I might be wrong) as far as I know the same restrictions apply to games as films.
 
the point is thats up to the parents to decide, not the shop or the kid. As I've said (I might be wrong) as far as I know the same restrictions apply to games as films.

It is the same. Some games have the ESRB rating which you don't have to follow but some shops do. Then the BBFC rating is just like anything else.
 
To be honest, I don't think you'd make that same statement if you knew a people who let their 6 year old play one of these games.

Who's decision is it then?

That's bad parenting and unfortunately there's very little you can do about that.

For the record I don't think games have ever or ever will make people kill. Doesn't mean it's a good or acceptable idea though.

When I have kids they'll be able to watch the next age bracket up. Unless I've already watched or played.
 
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