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If anything with a Nuke attached tried to leave NK it would be taken down before it gets anywhere

Why would you think that when none of their test missiles have been shot down? It's impossible to differentiate until you see the trajectory.
 
If needs must and a conflict is certain just evacuate the area in SK within artillery range (no small task i know). Fire every cruise missile you have at the enemy artillery positions and have tanks and infantry hanging just behind the DMZ. Then once artillery and air defenses are down just MOAB their arses back to the stone age.
 
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If anything with a Nuke attached tried to leave NK it would be taken down before it gets anywhere, also pretty much 99% of whatever NK have lined up along the DMZ pointing to SK would easily be wiped out within 24 hours.

Do people really believe all this crap that NK can actually do anything. The US intel and various other countries will have in depth data on everything that can be seen as a danger, NK wouldnt know what hit them.

We all know this.

Though the US has significant ABM type systems they aren't infallible and there are limits to what they can handle ICBM wise - NK might find a way to deliver a warhead they have poor performance against.

Only a limited amount of NK's artillery can reach Seoul from its current positions but they can still kill a lot of people in the first few hours and they'd employ staggered firing techniques (moving in and out of cover in groups) to reduce attrition to counter-battery fire.

If needs must and a conflict is certain just evacuate the area in SK within artillery range (no small task i know). Fire every cruise missile you have at the enemy artillery positions and have tanks and infantry hanging just behind the DMZ. Then once artillery and air defenses are down just MOAB their arses back to the stone age.

I wonder if NK being NK would use massed civilians as shields for their fixed positions if it came to actual war. If it wasn't for that kind of thing the US could use massive volleys of cruise missiles etc. to defeat them very quickly.
 
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Perpare ourselves for an influx of NK refugees.
They wont come here. South Korea is where escapees go, often via China. And if the regime collapses in North Korea the international community will be in there double fast with aid. And transitional governance will be set up I'd imagine with South Korea.
 
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While China may seem to be a loser in this, they are ostensibly playing the long game here... a war has never been acceptable in them modern age and the US will have it's image dragged through the dirt again (not that it isn't currently doing so, but a dirtier sort of dirt), that makes Chinese diplomacy leagues more reliable as they can play the benevolent world leader (funny that).
 
Why would you think that when none of their test missiles have been shot down? It's impossible to differentiate until you see the trajectory.
I think you underestimate their intel.

e: IMO the US are letting KJU hang himself out to dry, i think the various intel communities know his every move, there are satellites pointing at NK that will have images of everything that poses a danger in minute detail, they probably know exactly where he is anyway, any conflict would be over within 48 hours.

This of course is my opinion.
 
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Would anything change if Kim was taken out of the equation or would it just be same old from someone else taking his place?

This is what I've been wondering. If everything were to change if he came out of power, why don't the higher-ups over throw him? He rules his people with fear, he must have quite a few people backing him up if things were to go south.
 
I think you underestimate their intel.

e: IMO the US are letting KJU hang himself out to dry, i think the various intel communities know his every move, there are satellites pointing at NK that will have images of everything that poses a danger in minute detail, they probably know exactly where he is anyway, any conflict would be over within 48 hours.

This of course is my opinion.

Unfortunately NK has apparently got a significant underground tunnel system along with bases that are hidden under the mountains so pinpointing him may not be a simple case of point the satellite at him and track him. ;)
 
I think you underestimate their intel.

e: IMO the US are letting KJU hang himself out to dry, i think the various intel communities know his every move, there are satellites pointing at NK that will have images of everything that poses a danger in minute detail, they probably know exactly where he is anyway, any conflict would be over within 48 hours.

This of course is my opinion.

I think you over exaggerate the level and quality of satellite surveillance. If it were this comprehensive, they'd have never been able to develop nuclear weapons in the first place as the US would have acted.
 
Out of interest how do the US supply armaments to SK/Guam in times of war, I assume it's a constant supply stream of ships from the US or do they have weapons factories in Guam or how does it work?
 
e: IMO the US are letting KJU hang himself out to dry, i think the various intel communities know his every move, there are satellites pointing at NK that will have images of everything that poses a danger in minute detail, they probably know exactly where he is anyway, any conflict would be over within 48 hours.

While its possible if things kick off just getting rid of Kim probably won't be enough to stop the conflict - they have special forces who'll be sent out to try and operate in South Korea and cause havoc especially in Seoul, divisions sent out into the mountains with orders to fight on, etc. they pretty much operate under the assumption that if it comes to a defensive war with the US they will be operating on limited communications.
 
Unfortunately NK has apparently got a significant underground tunnel system along with bases that are hidden under the mountains so pinpointing him may not be a simple case of point the satellite at him and track him. ;)

Seeing as he paints himself as an immortal god that doesn't poop. I can't see the NK people being willing to fight for long when they see him hiding in a hole :)
 
Seeing as he paints himself as an immortal god that doesn't poop. I can't see the NK people being willing to fight for long when they see him hiding in a hole :)

It'll be like Nazi Germany - even if the rank and file becomes disillusioned there will be enough true believers in command positions, etc. to keep them toeing the line - many probably won't be aware he is hiding in a hole even if he is.
 
Trump will be forced out or killed. Kennedy brought the world to brink of nuclear war and was killed for it.
Isn't the crackpot conspiracy theory supposed to be that he wanted to get rid of the Rothschild owned Federal Reserve (which isn't owned by them anyway as it's a central bank).


How long will it be before we do what was going to happen anyway? How many lives must end, should a part of Seoul be obliterated?
The prospect of Seoul getting rekt is the reason nothing has been done.
 
Isn't the crackpot conspiracy theory supposed to be that he wanted to get rid of the Rothschild owned Federal Reserve (which isn't owned by them anyway as it's a central bank).



The prospect of Seoul getting rekt is the reason nothing has been done.

That is the main one - that he wanted to shake up the banking/financial system.
 
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