Not looking to buy one, but... SLK 230... why so cheap?
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No idea what the respective figures are when I posted that, but having checked the Z4 is but 0.7 seconds to 60 behind the SLK - which weighs a noticeable amount more due to its folding metal roof.
I still find it amusing that you think £10,000 for this model of SLK is a bargain, though!
If it was £6k I might agree.
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And these arbitary requirements make the SLK32 a 'bargain' because there isnt much else that'll do it?
What other Ferrari can you get for £10k - is a Mondial suddenly a bargain? What else apart from a Hyundai Granduer is less than 5 years old, a full sized saloon and only £1500, is that a bargain?
Honda S2000, BMW Z4 3.0i, Porsche Boxster S - not quite as quick but frankly they are not a world away. Both far better buys than your 'bargain' and each having key strong points rather than being a dissapointing boulevard cruiser a decade ago, let alone now.
I'm sorry but a £10,000 10 year old example of a never particularly awesome Mercedes is not a bargain and never will be a bargain.
Heck slightly older SL500's are similar money these days! Now that WAS a good Merc.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2058418.htm
The only one for sale on PH. Bargain or what?
It's priced the same as cars like this:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2078081.htm
or this:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2076507.htm
It's not a bargain.
What other Ferrari can you get for £10k - is a Mondial suddenly a bargain? What else apart from a Hyundai Granduer is less than 5 years old, a full sized saloon and only £1500, is that a bargain?
Honda S2000, BMW Z4 3.0i, Porsche Boxster S - not quite as quick but frankly they are not a world away. Both far better buys than your 'bargain' and each having key strong points rather than being a dissapointing boulevard cruiser a decade ago, let alone now.
I'm sorry but a £10,000 10 year old example of a never particularly awesome Mercedes is not a bargain and never will be a bargain.
Heck slightly older SL500's are similar money these days! Now that WAS a good Merc.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2058418.htm
The only one for sale on PH. Bargain or what?
It's priced the same as cars like this:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2078081.htm
or this:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2076507.htm
It's not a bargain.
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I am not trying to dispute anything, what I was attempting to give was my point of view as a result of being a REAL life owner of a 2000 CLK.
What is your experience of Mercedes ownership Fox? is it first hand or is it from these circles you talk of? if it is that later don't believe everything you read on the internet or from motoring reviews, real life ownership carries more weight imo.
I tend not to post in this forum due to the amount of times people make these type of statements. Perish the thought you as an owner ever try to disagree, if you do, you better prepare yourself for some typical sarcastic replies.
Maybe it is just me wanting to hear from people with experience of ownership rather than from people who tend to just regurgitate what they have read in the motoring press.
Like I said, maybe I was lucky, but maybe there are more people than you think like me out there who just don't make a song and dance about their car as they've had little to no problems with them? Who knows?
What is your experience of Mercedes ownership Fox? is it first hand or is it from these circles you talk of? if it is that later don't believe everything you read on the internet or from motoring reviews, real life ownership carries more weight imo.
I tend not to post in this forum due to the amount of times people make these type of statements. Perish the thought you as an owner ever try to disagree, if you do, you better prepare yourself for some typical sarcastic replies.
Maybe it is just me wanting to hear from people with experience of ownership rather than from people who tend to just regurgitate what they have read in the motoring press.
Like I said, maybe I was lucky, but maybe there are more people than you think like me out there who just don't make a song and dance about their car as they've had little to no problems with them? Who knows?
Shall we agree to disagree? It's you versus the world on the Merc rust issue I'm afraid. Pretty much any other Merc owner on here with a 96-04ish shape Merc (And there are a few) will testify to the rust issue. It's driving Jez mad, he drives Mercs flagship, the W220 S Class, and the way its rusting around him really bothers him as the car is otherwise beautiful.
I don't really understand what 'you as an owner' brings to the table. Great, you were lucky and yours didnt rust. Thats good. I also had a Citroen that never really broke, that doesn't suddenly mean all the tales of French reliability are untrue does it, it just means I was lucky.
I don't really understand what 'you as an owner' brings to the table. Great, you were lucky and yours didnt rust. Thats good. I also had a Citroen that never really broke, that doesn't suddenly mean all the tales of French reliability are untrue does it, it just means I was lucky.
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We had a few Mercs from that era, they had problems with rust at 3 years old let alone 10.
Those years were not Mercedes finest hour.
Those years were not Mercedes finest hour.
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Sorry Fox, in the future I won't bother bringing any of my real world experiences to your table. I'm sure it will be no loss as you seem to be able to best advise everybody and anybody on just about any topic, hats off to you.
Sorry Fox, in the future I won't bother bringing any of my real world experiences to your table. I'm sure it will be no loss as you seem to be able to best advise everybody and anybody on just about any topic, hats off to you.
Ok, I admit it - I am wrong. There is no rust problem with Mercedes and a 96-04 Mercedes is very unlikely to suffer from rust.
no, i wasnt unlucky, i didnt buy it
nasty pieces of work
his neighbour has an e270. that makes some awful noises when he starts it up. apparently thats been back to the deal umpteen times and they cant sort it
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no, i wasnt unlucky, i didnt buy it
nasty pieces of work
his neighbour has an e270. that makes some awful noises when he starts it up. apparently thats been back to the deal umpteen times and they cant sort it
That i blame on the person, not the car, because if it were mine it would stay at the dealer till it was fixed.
But that aside those years were not Mercedes finest.
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Sorry to chime in but I don't think it's an issue with your real world experience, more that you seem to feel that this makes empiracal evidence irrelevant.Sorry Fox, in the future I won't bother bringing any of my real world experiences to your table. I'm sure it will be no loss as you seem to be able to best advise everybody and anybody on just about any topic, hats off to you.
first thread I found btw:
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/archive/index.php/t-2482573.html
but the worrying thing is, people still buy them.
my grandad has the newer shape e class, a v6 petrol avantgard, again with rust issues, he went to open the boot and the button fell into the boot lid
after more repairs rust came out on the door, mercedes refused to repaint it as they claimed it had been repaired badly in the past and the paint depth was too thin.... they were commenting on a repair they carried 18 months earlier!
i feel there is a similarity with the RR thread thats going at the moment and people's compulsion to buy things due to perceived image maybe?
my sister (and i thought she was clued up on cars) got an ML. thats bloody awful too, but in the next couple weeks shes off to look at a Gallardo so things are looking up (no idea how shell get to the stables though)
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Theres nothing wrong with Mercs after about 2005, they are just another premium brand no better or worse than BMW / Jaguar / Audi, i really think we will have to agree to disagree about why people buy cars, mostly its down to this...
Iv got X amount to spend on a car and i like X car.
One thing i will say is this, i have never bought a car in the last 15 years with any thought whatsoever to what other people think, i truly dont give a toss.
Before that image was more important, funny enough when i was getting a few quid, once you get it it matters less.
nothing wrong with mercs after 2005? if youre feeling nosy have a quick google for cls g7 auto downchange issues. feels like youre being driven by a learner sometimes.
merc's response after much dis-service was along the lines of "lets take out this 09 demonstrator, youll then see that yours could be much worse"
yes MBUK were written to blah blah blah
theyre fleet car orientated brands (well, majority of the MBs on the road are tiny engined diesel fleet cars) once theyre out of the warrenty the big buyer doesnt care and neither does merc
another product built to survive the warrenty period
merc's response after much dis-service was along the lines of "lets take out this 09 demonstrator, youll then see that yours could be much worse"
yes MBUK were written to blah blah blah
theyre fleet car orientated brands (well, majority of the MBs on the road are tiny engined diesel fleet cars) once theyre out of the warrenty the big buyer doesnt care and neither does merc
another product built to survive the warrenty period
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The same business model employed by all the premium brands.
Do a google for BMW problems or Audi problems, Mercs are no worse.
What i cant understand is why your family keeps buying them if they are so rubbish.
exactly. i think it stems from the brand being so prestige and a status symbol in the 70s and 80s, the image stuck but merc rested on its laurels and turned out utter dross for the next couple decades (bar the early 90s SL and a few others)
with regard to the other brands, i dont think ive come across a single rusty audi and there are two girls A3s that i work on regularly whose are 98 models. no rust.
bmws. i dont have a lot of experience with them but id be suprised if they were in par with merc in terms of complete-lack-of-build
with regard to the other brands, i dont think ive come across a single rusty audi and there are two girls A3s that i work on regularly whose are 98 models. no rust.
bmws. i dont have a lot of experience with them but id be suprised if they were in par with merc in terms of complete-lack-of-build
We're quite a knowledgable forum on BMW's thanks to some great members - they also have same issues. VANOS seals anyone? Swirl flaps? Fox was just mentioning the other day his e39 had some sort of issue that BMW USA is replacing yet BMW UK won't for some reason.